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May 8th, 2019 at 6:23pm
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That's naturally,  up to and including still birth.

Mostly naturally,  not by deliberate abortion.


Does that mean that God is ok with embryos terminating?
  

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Reply #1 - May 9th, 2019 at 3:44pm
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Limey. wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 6:23pm:
That's naturally,  up to and including still birth.

Mostly naturally,  not by deliberate abortion.


Does that mean that God is ok with embryos terminating?


Well, people die of natural causes.  Most, but not all, on this side of the womb.  And He seems okay with that.
  

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Reply #2 - May 10th, 2019 at 1:04pm
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Limey. wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 6:23pm:
Does that mean that God is ok with embryos terminating?


The bible is clear on placing little if any value on embryos, fetuses.. even newborns up to a month old.. 

And as with all Abrahamic religions.. females are valued less than males.



  

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Reply #3 - May 10th, 2019 at 5:07pm
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EF wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 3:44pm:
Well, people die of natural causes.  Most, but not all, on this side of the womb.  And He seems okay with that.


Yeah, he's pretty much Ok with pretty much everything... Fictional characters rarely object to real issues.
  

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Reply #4 - May 10th, 2019 at 5:09pm
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Fiddler wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 1:04pm:
The bible is clear on placing little if any value on embryos, fetuses.. even newborns up to a month old.. 

And as with all Abrahamic religions.. females are valued less than males.





Fathers can kill their children until they reach adulthood without any consequences, that's why they don't even bother mentioning the fetuses.
  

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Reply #5 - May 12th, 2019 at 9:19am
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Wait, you folks are now advocating life despite our nation murdering around 30 million children?  Are we seeing a shift or is this more liberal hypocrisy from a quitter of his own faith that loves to take and distort the faith he once claimed to love?
  


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Reply #6 - May 12th, 2019 at 4:50pm
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Seawolf wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 9:19am:
Wait, you folks are now advocating life despite our nation murdering around 30 million children?  Are we seeing a shift or is this more liberal hypocrisy from a quitter of his own faith that loves to take and distort the faith he once claimed to love?


Your remark is downright insane.
  

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Reply #7 - May 13th, 2019 at 6:23am
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BowHunter wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 4:50pm:
Your remark is downright insane.

Except it is your remarks that are insane and uneducated.  You take scripture and malign it to prove a point that also goes against your own belief.  You would complain that a god commands the murder of babies while you support precisely that.  One would rationalze that you would then be all about this god you are painting since it supports what you desire in our society.
  


"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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Reply #8 - May 13th, 2019 at 5:14pm
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Seawolf wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 6:23am:
Except it is your remarks that are insane and uneducated.  You take scripture and malign it to prove a point that also goes against your own belief.  You would complain that a god commands the murder of babies while you support precisely that.  One would rationalze that you would then be all about this god you are painting since it supports what you desire in our society.


My beliefs are not in question here. You pretend that your anti-abortion fanaticism is dictated by god while YOUR bible says that YOUR god doesn't even mind the killing of nearly adult children by the hand of their father and says nothing about abortion. It's not even MENTIONED!!! That's what makes you insane. However, a potted plant is more likely to give a relevant response than you are.
  

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Reply #9 - May 13th, 2019 at 6:23pm
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One of the serious problems with the pro-life position is enforcement.  About a quarter of all pregnancies end in miscarriage, and it's essentially impossible to distinguish a natural miscarriage from an abortion.  To effectively enforce abortion, you need a massive surveillance state trained on women of childbearing age and their doctors, and you need methods to distinguish miscarriage from abortion that don't even exist.

As for the Bible, well...

By the rivers of Babylon—
there we sat down and there we wept
when we remembered Zion.
On the willows there
we hung up our harps.
For there our captors
asked us for songs,
and our tormentors asked for mirth, saying,
"Sing us one of the songs of Zion!"
How could we sing the Lord’s song
in a foreign land?
If I forget you, O Jerusalem,
let my right hand wither!
Let my tongue cling to the roof of my mouth,
if I do not remember you,
if I do not set Jerusalem
above my highest joy.
Remember, O Lord, against the Edomites
the day of Jerusalem’s fall,
how they said, "Tear it down! Tear it down!
Down to its foundations!"
O daughter Babylon, you devastator!
Happy shall they be who pay you back
what you have done to us!
Happy shall they be who take your little ones
and dash them against the rock!
  

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