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Re: Pence makes good point
Reply #80 - May 14th, 2019 at 10:09pm
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atreyu wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:05pm:
He who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father (John 14:12).

Ok Seawolf, your time to shine.... I read on.....

You do something greater than turning water to wine under scientifically controlled conditions and I'll absolutely start believing your side.


I am not here to convince you, now if God can not turn water into wine, then he is not God.  You see, I don't convert a soul, that is God's job.  I do know this to be true; 1 Peter 5:5 God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble."  No proud man will receive the gospel.  Your pride is your enemy in God's eyes.

I have already seen his miracles in my life.
  

"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

Charles Carroll, signer of the DOI
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Reply #81 - May 14th, 2019 at 10:49pm
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Reply #82 - May 15th, 2019 at 7:21am
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Seawolf wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:09pm:
I am not here to convince you, now if God can not turn water into wine, then he is not God.  You see, I don't convert a soul, that is God's job.  I do know this to be true; 1 Peter 5:5 God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble."  No proud man will receive the gospel.  Your pride is your enemy in God's eyes.

I have already seen his miracles in my life.


I'm not disputing that a god can turn water into wine.  I'm disputing you can as per your own text.

You should have powers to move mountains if you were a true believer.
  
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Reply #83 - May 15th, 2019 at 7:32am
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Seawolf wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:09pm:
I am not here to convince you, now if God can not turn water into wine, then he is not God.  You see, I don't convert a soul, that is God's job.  I do know this to be true; 1 Peter 5:5 God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble."  No proud man will receive the gospel.  Your pride is your enemy in God's eyes.

I have already seen his miracles in my life.


You may have seen the unlikely... the improbable.. but you nor anyone else has seen the supernatural.. 
It's simply that you're gullible.. naive.. and want to believe in events not explicable by natural or scientific laws. 
  

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Reply #84 - May 15th, 2019 at 8:44am
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Fiddler wrote on May 15th, 2019 at 7:32am:
You may have seen the unlikely... the improbable.. but you nor anyone else has seen the supernatural.. 
It's simply that you're gullible.. naive.. and want to believe in events not explicable by natural or scientific laws. 

As a quitter, not sure you can really add any integrity to your remarks.  Best to just not say anything, we get it, you are having some personal issues with faith.
  

"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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Reply #85 - May 15th, 2019 at 8:46am
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atreyu wrote on May 15th, 2019 at 7:21am:
I'm not disputing that a god can turn water into wine.  I'm disputing you can as per your own text.

You should have powers to move mountains if you were a true believer.

I am a true believer and I understand what he is saying.  I also stated my wife and I both witnessed a miracle, one we both prayed for and one doctors can not explain.

Matt 4:6“If You are the Son of God,” he said, “throw Yourself down. For it is written: ‘He will command His angels concerning You, and they will lift You up in their hands, so that You will not strike Your foot against a stone.’” 7Jesus replied, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’”
  

"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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Reply #86 - May 15th, 2019 at 9:17am
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Seawolf wrote on May 15th, 2019 at 8:44am:
As a quitter,


Santa, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy want to know why you quit them ..

Pause for a moment and ask yourself why you no longer believe in those particular fantasies yet hold on to a creator ..

Is it possible that you stopped believing in Santa when your grasp of reality began to solidify.. ?

   


Seawolf wrote on May 15th, 2019 at 8:44am:
not sure you can really add any integrity to your remarks.


That's your myth resisting being laid bare ..



Seawolf wrote on May 15th, 2019 at 8:44am:
Best to just not say anything, we get it, you are having some personal issues with faith.


Wrong again ..

As I've told you so many times.. you can worship Trump's jock strap for all I care as long as your nut sniffing shenanigans aren't codified into law..

  

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Reply #87 - May 15th, 2019 at 9:22am
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Fiddler wrote on May 15th, 2019 at 9:17am:
Santa, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy want to know why you quit them ..

Pause for a moment and ask yourself why you no longer believe in those particular fantasies yet hold on to a creator ..

Is it possible that you stopped believing in Santa when your grasp of reality began to solidify.. ?

   



That's your myth resisting being laid bare ..




Wrong again ..

As I've told you so many times.. you can worship Trump's jock strap for all I care as long as your nut sniffing shenanigans aren't codified into law..


Yeah, yeah, yeah, you are a broken record.  I think you spend way too much time obsessing about Christian faith.  You have said this a thousand times that they I no longer really read your entire remarks.
  

"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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Reply #88 - May 15th, 2019 at 9:32am
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Seawolf wrote on May 15th, 2019 at 8:46am:
I also stated my wife and I both witnessed a miracle, one we both prayed for and one doctors can not explain.





A religion that worships aircraft was started by a group of people who saw their first plane fly over Vanuatu, a remote island in the South Pacific of Australia, during the Second World War. 

After the planes delivered food and supplies to the islanders, the group began to believe that cargo would be brought to them by a Messiah. Consequently, whenever they saw a plane fly overhead they would build a replica - in the hope of more bounty.

The islanders did not know where the objects were coming from; which led them to believe that the objects derived from magic. The religion was first discovered in 1946 by Australian government patrols, and there are a few but diverse number of cargo religions left. 

Notably, one of the cargo sects is referred to as the John Frum movement because they believe Frum, a seemingly fictional First World War serviceman, is the Messiah sent from God.


Cargo Cults


Oddly...none of the believers could explain the airplane ...

  

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Reply #89 - May 15th, 2019 at 9:50am
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Seawolf wrote on May 15th, 2019 at 9:22am:
I think you spend way too much time obsessing about Christian faith.


Obsessing?  No.. It might seem that way because those claiming to be Christian spend so much time waving their religion in everyone's face ..

  

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