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Re: Twins: science and magic
Reply #40 - Jun 12th, 2019 at 9:55pm
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petep wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 9:15pm:
Imagine if we all focused on a few negative things in every person and trashed all of them because of it.

If you can’t see some positive messages in faith and religion without being able to discount some aspects then I feel sorry for you.

And likewise, if you are such a literalist that you feel you must believe every single thing written by men verbatim then I also feel sorry for you.

On the whole id say religion and faith has added more good than evil.

Putting aside what we think is good, if there is a God and a heaven, then eternity is based on God's plan for our salvation, not on man's idea of good works.  Eternity of one's soul is above all else in this world as our time is a flash in a pan here in this world.  So, does good works get us into heaven or is it purely by God's own grace and mercy?  I would rather offend a few then to face the accusation I never shared God's message of his amazing love through his own son.  Anyway, enjoy your evening.
  

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Re: Twins: science and magic
Reply #41 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:24am
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petep wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 9:15pm:
Imagine if we all focused on a few negative things in every person and trashed all of them because of it.

If you can’t see some positive messages in faith and religion without being able to discount some aspects then I feel sorry for you.

And likewise, if you are such a literalist that you feel you must believe every single thing written by men verbatim then I also feel sorry for you.

On the whole id say religion and faith has added more good than evil.


I would agree that Faith is an amazing skill, and that without it, there would be a lot less hope in this world.

But religion? No, religion has caused tremendous strife. Built into the most guilty religions is the attitude that only that particular religion is the 'right' one. And that attitude has led to war, to death, to suffering.

Religion and Faith are separate, however, and thank the Universe for that. You can totally believe in something without proof (Faith), yet still be totally science-based for the explanation for the physical world. Religion, in that context, is simply a standardized methodology for expressing, respecting, and practicing one's Faith. You get all the benefits of Faith, without the baggage of accepting the literal dogma of religion.

It is enlightening.
  
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