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Reply #10 - Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:39pm
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KSU_Aviator wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:25pm:
First, we don't pay welfare to farmers, but it is good to know that you are against the idea of welfare.

Are you sure about that?

I'd consider the 1.2 farm billion bailout welfare. We're not talking about subsidies. We're talking about bailouts or transfers of taxpayer wealth.

https://www.inquisitr.com/5475892/millions-in-farm-bailout-money-went-to-shady-f...
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Reply #11 - Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:39pm
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Fiddler wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:33pm:
Why do you call facts "hating Trump"?


Facts?  Like the one where you claim I am for Theocracy yet could never link those remarks to me?  Yeah, facts to you is not necessarily facts as defined.
  

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Reply #12 - Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:44pm
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Seawolf wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:39pm:
Yeah, facts to you is not necessarily facts as defined. 


I was talking about the Trump facts that you ALWAYS fail to grasp ..

Posting facts about Trump is not "hating Trump" ..

  

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Reply #13 - Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:49pm
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Fiddler wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:44pm:
I was talking about the Trump facts that you ALWAYS fail to grasp ..

Posting facts about Trump is not "hating Trump" ..


You hate Trump and that has been well observed on this forum.  It is hard to have a real conversation about real issues without TDS kicking in.
  

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Seawolf wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:49pm:
You hate Trump and that has been well observed on this forum.  It is hard to have a real conversation about real issues without TDS kicking in.


No SW ..  It's hard to have a real conversation about real issues because you don't value facts.

  

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Reply #15 - Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:56pm
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Seawolf wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:32pm:
Here we go again with the hating Trump crap.   Roll Eyes


There you go again hating the truth.
  

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Reply #16 - Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:58pm
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Seawolf wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:49pm:


You hate The Truth and that has been well observed on this forum.  It is hard to have a real conversation about real issues without your TDS (Truth Dysfunction Syndrome) kicking in.
  

What is the cost of lies? It's not that we'll mistake them for the truth. The real danger is that if we hear enough lies, then we no longer recognize the truth at all. What can we do then? What else is left but to abandon the hope of truth and content ourselves instead with stories. In these stories it doesn't matter who the heroes are. All we want to know is who is to blame. - V. Legasov
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Reply #17 - Jun 10th, 2019 at 4:00pm
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Fiddler wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:54pm:
No SW ..  It's hard to have a real conversation about real issues because you don't value facts.


You and Facts!?   Cheesy Grin
  

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Reply #18 - Jun 10th, 2019 at 4:59pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:29pm:
Oh really?  When the government pays private entity money to stay in business (or alive) that's called welfare.

Dig it.

Now, they wouldn't be getting or needing welfare payments if Trump hadn't kicked off this tariff BS.

Dig that.

Greg


It's only welfare when we do it.

The jury is still out on the tariffs "working". The short-term political cost has been minimal but if the math is correct, it can't continue without an inflationary effect.

The GOP supports taxes (tariffs) and welfare (farm subsidies) now. We're making progress!  Grin
  

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Reply #19 - Jun 10th, 2019 at 8:38pm
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Fiddler wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:33pm:
Why do you call facts "hating Trump"?



Because the modern Trumpkin is anti fact. Anything that makes them feel bad is replaced with propaganda. And that makes them feel much better.

So basically, fragile snowflakes.
  

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In 2020, when President Trump is reelected and we retake the House and gain a fillabuster proof majority in the Senate, then you can blame President Trump and the Republicans for this continuing mess in Washington.


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