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Trump proven right again, as tariff threat prompts Mexico
Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:58pm
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...While the Democratic Congress refused to fund serious border protection, Trump went his own way and crafted a deal. While conservatives, many Republicans and even some on the left, excoriated the president for supposedly abandoning the holy grail of free trade by threatening tariffs on Mexico, Trump went about his business and did what other politicians refused to do. He found a promising way to decrease illegal immigration.

Trading on terms that increase our long-term problems by enriching those who mean to do us harm at least warrants a discussion.

The real story here is not that Trump made a deal. That was predictable. Mexico has a vulnerable economy and the U.S. economy is far, far stronger. Mexico had and still does have more to lose and so it made a deal. Leveraging your superior bargaining power is part of the art of the deal.

The reaction to Trump’s potential tariffs, on the other hand, raises a serious question.

Are any Americans willing to suffer any inconvenience at all for the sake of American foreign policy or a greater American good?

For the record, I am a free trader. If we had a world without tariffs, economic activity would substantially increase and standards of living would rise around the world. That is good for everyone and may even reduce war as some nations open their societies up to economic freedom.

The pursuit of free trade, however, is not the only policy consideration our country faces. Indeed, the United States is constantly beset with foreign policy considerations that require us to use economic levers that run contrary to the pursuit of free trade...

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tom-del-beccaro-securing-border
  

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Re: Trump proven right again, as tariff threat prompts Mexico
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I think CC is living on Mars...

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Seawolf wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:58pm:
Trump proven right again, as tariff threat prompts Mexico...

...to continue doing what it's previously agreed to and already started doing?

https://www.state.gov/u-s-mexico-joint-declaration/
  
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:59pm:
I think CC is living on Mars...



Is he living on the Moon part of Mars?

  

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Demos wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 4:03pm:
...to continue doing what it's previously agreed to and already started doing?

https://www.state.gov/u-s-mexico-joint-declaration/

You mean providing and additional prodding to get them to follow up on their agreement they have yet put into action?
  

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Fiddler wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 4:04pm:
Is he living on the Moon part of Mars?



You heard that too!!!!!

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Greg55_99 wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 4:05pm:
You heard that too!!!!!

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Re: Trump proven right again, as tariff threat prompts Mexico
Reply #7 - Jun 10th, 2019 at 4:08pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 4:05pm:
You heard that too!!!!!

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Sort'a puts '57 States' in the rear view mirror, doesn't it?

  

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Re: Trump proven right again, as tariff threat prompts Mexico
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Fiddler wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 4:08pm:
Yep.. Straight from the horse's ass .. .    Grin Grin




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Sort'a puts '57 States' in the rear view mirror, doesn't it?


Nah, you still have Navy Corps Man.   Cheesy Grin

  

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Re: Trump proven right again, as tariff threat prompts Mexico
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Seawolf wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 4:04pm:
You mean providing and additional prodding to get them to follow up on their agreement they have yet put into action?

What haven't they put into action yet?

According to the statement, they're 'increasing enforcement' along Mexico's southern border, which implies there was already enforcement going on (and we know there has been because we've been pushing that since 2014 and Mexico has deported more people than we have since 2015).

Mexico is 'expanding implementation of the existing Migrant Protection Protocols' which means that they're expanding a program already being implemented by Mexico (which was agreed to by them back in December 2018).
  
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