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Re: Nowegian planned to kill thousands in Times Square
Reply #20 - Jun 12th, 2019 at 2:04pm
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patrick2 wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 1:54pm:
They say Christian armies invaded muslim countries in the seventh century?

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So-called Islamic State (IS) continues to use its online propaganda magazine to appropriate the Crusades of the central middle ages. By blurring time periods and disparate historical phenomena, IS presents its readers with a narrative of continuous Western “crusader” aggression as a rallying cry for support and a justification for its actions. This “crusader” narrative has little basis in historical fact – but it does make for powerful propaganda.

Islamic State and the appropriation of the Crusades

You can even go back and read bin Laden's 'Letter to America' which contains similar themes.

The point being that y'all and AQ, ISIS and other Islamist groups ahistorically conflate their Salafist ideology with Islam in other places and periods.
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Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 2:01pm:
That means basically nothing in the end. Because a radical Muslim isn't thinking about 1300 years ago.

The leadership is though. It's part of their propaganda efforts - pointing to a time and place where Islam was 'great' and 'triumphant' (even if their propaganda is ahistorical).
  
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petep wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 1:43pm:
You are rationalizing. A tool for the weak. Explain to me why Jews aren’t blowing up german cafes, or japs blowing up us landmarks, or Americans blowing themselves up in Japan, or southerners burning up Boston, or the English bombing America.

Why would I have to explain that?

I'm not saying the radical groups within Islam are justified in using violence.

I'm saying the violence is somewhat predictable based on the culture, the history, and the Western domination of the region since WWI.

How many regimes in the region can the West overthrow?

This isn't a one-time event. This isn't one war. It's near constant conflict in the region.

petep wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 1:43pm:
\Radical Islam has been terrorizing their neighbors and the more lately planet since 700ad. Last I checked the us wasn’t around then to “make” people behave badly.

I'm not saying that there are no faults with Islam, culture in the Middle East, etc.

Just as I'm not saying that all of the responsibility for terrorism rests with the West.

There are certainly political and religious leaders taking advantage of Muslim people for political ends.

But when we continue to overthrow regimes throughout the Muslim world, why would anybody be surprised when there are Muslim extremists seeking to damage the West?
  

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Re: Nowegian planned to kill thousands in Times Square
Reply #23 - Jun 12th, 2019 at 2:07pm
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Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 2:01pm:
You had to specify "7th century".

Because "they started it!"

That means basically nothing in the end. Because a radical Muslim isn't thinking about 1300 years ago. He's thinking about his brother that got blown up by a bomb last year.

And you aren't thinking about 1300 years ago either. Not really. You're thinking about 18 years ago.


Isn’t this thread about another weekly occurrence of terrorist attacks. You must not have been around in the 60 and 70 s when every other week Paris cafes were getting bombed.
  
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petep wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 2:07pm:
You must not have been around in the 60 and 70 s when every other week Paris cafes were getting bombed.

Which was being done by leftist Arab nationalists, not Islamists. There is an important distinction.
  
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petep wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 2:07pm:
Isn’t this thread about another weekly occurrence of terrorist attacks. You must not have been around in the 60 and 70 s when every other week Paris cafes were getting bombed.

So is that when it started?
  

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Reply #26 - Jun 12th, 2019 at 2:12pm
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Ulysses wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 2:19am:

- youre mocking victims of terrorism like 911 - as the murdered playing the victim card
  

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Reply #27 - Jun 12th, 2019 at 2:13pm
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Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 2:01pm:
You had to specify "7th century".

Because "they started it!"

That means basically nothing in the end. Because a radical Muslim isn't thinking about 1300 years ago. He's thinking about his brother that got blown up by a bomb last year.

And you aren't thinking about 1300 years ago either. Not really. You're thinking about 18 years ago.


No, one of you islamophiles justified Islamic mass murder because of what happened in the last 100 years.  What is that - a magic cut-off date for complaints?
  
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Reply #28 - Jun 12th, 2019 at 2:15pm
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patrick2 wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 2:10am:
The libs here are quiescent as their islamophilia once more looks insane.  Grin


It's not "islamophila".

It's "not condemning a whole bunch of people just because a minority of those who share their particular sky-pixie fixation end up as murderers".


Wasn't Anders Breivik Norwegian by the way?
  

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Re: Nowegian planned to kill thousands in Times Square
Reply #29 - Jun 12th, 2019 at 2:17pm
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Limey. wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 2:15pm:
It's not "islamophila".

It's "not condemning a whole bunch of people just because a minority of those who share their particular sky-pixie fixation end up as murderers".


Wasn't Anders Breivik Norwegian by the way?



OH YEAH, I FORGOT ABOUT THAT GUY! WHO CAN EVER FORGET HOW HE ENSLAVED A MILLION EUROPEANS!  And the time he took over Spain - really bad form....
  
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