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Lenin quote redux for libertarians
Jun 12th, 2019 at 7:55pm
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"The libertarians will sell the ideology with which we will hang them."






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Re: Lenin quote redux for libertarians
Reply #1 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:40am
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Re: Lenin quote redux for libertarians
Reply #2 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:47am
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I'm going to need a source for that...

In Lenin's day, libertarianism did not exist. Libertarians then were called liberals.
  

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Re: Lenin quote redux for libertarians
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TowardLiberty wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:47am:
I'm going to need a source for that...

In Lenin's day, libertarianism did not exist. Libertarians then were called liberals.


I said "redux".
  
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Re: Lenin quote redux for libertarians
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patrick2 wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 11:54am:
I said "redux".

"Redux" does not mean "I made some stuff up."
  

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Re: Lenin quote redux for libertarians
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TowardLiberty wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 12:10pm:
"Redux" does not mean "I made some stuff up."


You don't get it.  Roll Eyes
  
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Re: Lenin quote redux for libertarians
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patrick2 wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 12:11pm:
You don't get it.  Roll Eyes

I get that you do not know the meaning of redux and aren't a big fan of individual liberty.
  

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Re: Lenin quote redux for libertarians
Reply #7 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 12:21pm
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OK - I see I have to restore my practice of supplying footnote-for-idiots.  Roll Eyes


redux 
(ˈriːdʌks) 

adjective
(usually postpositive)
  presented in a new way

Lenin's famous quote:

'The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.'

Ok?  Remember?  Remember?

The point was that the policies supported by YOU, particularly with regard to illegal immigration, will ironically end up creating a society OPPOSITE to that supported by libertarians.

Blink twice if you get it yet.  Roll Eyes
  
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Re: Lenin quote redux for libertarians
Reply #8 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 12:26pm
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patrick2 wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 12:21pm:
Lenin's famous quote:

'The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.'

Ok?  Remember?  Remember?

The point was that the policies supported by YOU, particularly with regard to illegal immigration, will ironically end up creating a society OPPOSITE to that supported by libertarians.

Blink twice if you get it yet. 

Oh I get your point. I think it's silly.

In reality, we've had open borders for most of our history and we became the freest country on earth.

Secondly, the policies you support grow the state and it's role in public life in a massive way, which necessarily will create a country opposite that supported by libertarians. And that's a point you have no answer to.

Further, immigrants aren't the net negative you believe they are. They strengthen our society and we would be weaker without them.
  

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Re: Lenin quote redux for libertarians
Reply #9 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 12:45pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 12:26pm:
Oh I get your point. I think it's silly.

In reality, we've had open borders for most of our history and we became the freest country on earth.

Secondly, the policies you support grow the state and it's role in public life in a massive way, which necessarily will create a country opposite that supported by libertarians. And that's a point you have no answer to.

Further, immigrants aren't the net negative you believe they are. They strengthen our society and we would be weaker without them.

- now the new voters are voting for socialists - look at California
  

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