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The Steele Dossier was used only ONCE. PART of the FISA warrant of Carter Page
Jun 13th, 2019 at 1:21pm
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Was used only ONCE.  It was one of other pieces of evidence used in the FISA warrant obtained against Carter Page.  Page was never charged with anything.  OK...

What does this have to do with Flynn, Gates, Manafort, Popadopoulos, or Stone?

Nothing....

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Re: The Steele Dossier was used only ONCE. PART of the FISA warrant of Carter Page
Reply #1 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 1:26pm
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Tap dancing again?  Even if it was used once, it was an unverifiable dossier that was proven to be unreliable, as even Steele later admitted.  It was used in a manner to obtain a FISA warrant despite failing to warn the Judge it was paid for by the DNC and was unreliable.
  

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Re: The Steele Dossier was used only ONCE. PART of the FISA warrant of Carter Page
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Seawolf wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 1:26pm:
Tap dancing again?  Even if it was used once, it was an unverifiable dossier that was proven to be unreliable, as even Steele later admitted.  It was used in a manner to obtain a FISA warrant despite failing to warn the Judge it was paid for by the DNC and was unreliable. 


OK, so the guy the unverifiable dossier was used against was never charged with anything.  What about the others?

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Re: The Steele Dossier was used only ONCE. PART of the FISA warrant of Carter Page
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 1:29pm:
OK, so the guy the unverifiable dossier was used against was never charged with anything.  What about the others?

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Let's just start with the fact that the Judge was lied to to begin with, or are you going to gloss over that?
  

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Seawolf wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 1:30pm:
Let's just start with the fact that the Judge was lied to to begin with, or are you going to gloss over that?


I don't believe that.  Nontheless, what does the dossier have to do with Manafort.

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Re: The Steele Dossier was used only ONCE. PART of the FISA warrant of Carter Page
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 1:31pm:
I don't believe that.  Nontheless, what does the dossier have to do with Manafort.

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We are talking about a document that was used to obtain a FISA warrant despite it being deemed highly suspect.  This same document that the FBI fail to inform the judge was funded by the DNC.  No judge would have given that document the time of day had they known this.
  

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Re: The Steele Dossier was used only ONCE. PART of the FISA warrant of Carter Page
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Seawolf wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 1:33pm:
We are talking about a document that was used to obtain a FISA warrant despite it being deemed highly suspect.  This same document that the FBI fail to inform the judge was funded by the DNC.  No judge would have given that document the time of day had they known this. 


YOU already know that the Dossier was one of SEVERAL pieces of evidence put before the FISA court.  Why do you keep forgetting that?

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Re: The Steele Dossier was used only ONCE. PART of the FISA warrant of Carter Page
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 1:36pm:
YOU already know that the Dossier was one of SEVERAL pieces of evidence put before the FISA court.  Why do you keep forgetting that?

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Because the dossier tainted the whole process!!  The FBI KNEW this and yet submitted to the judge as well as failing to disclose the funding by the DNC.  If the role was reversed, you wold be lit, and rightly so.  A private entity (DNC) weaponized the FBI against a political foe.  I will say this again, had the judge known these facts, the warrant would have never been issued.
  

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Seawolf wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 1:39pm:
Because the dossier tainted the whole process!!  The FBI KNEW this and yet submitted to the judge as well as failing to disclose the funding by the DNC.  If the role was reversed, you wold be lit, and rightly so.  A private entity (DNC) weaponized the FBI against a political foe.  I will say this again, had the judge known these facts, the warrant would have never been issued.


CC, the FBI TOLD the judge the Dossier was the result of a political campaign.  You think FISA judges are stupid?  Really?

Oh, and follow on FISA warrants were issued against Page WITHOUT use of the Dossier because, well, he was doing some strange stuff..

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Re: The Steele Dossier was used only ONCE. PART of the FISA warrant of Carter Page
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 1:41pm:
CC, the FBI TOLD the judge the Dossier was the result of a political campaign.  You think FISA judges are stupid?  Really?

Oh, and follow on FISA warrants were issued against Page WITHOUT use of the Dossier because, well, he was doing some strange stuff..

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WRONG!!  The FBI never disclosed that the dossier was paid for by the DNC.  They also did not disclose the information provided to them by the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State that Steele's remarks to her showed his as completely unreliable.
  

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