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Re: Would you be OK with Trump defying a Supreme Court order about the Census question?
Reply #10 - Jul 6th, 2019 at 11:40am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jul 5th, 2019 at 2:26pm:
If so, then it shouldn't have been so difficult to TRUTHFULLY tell the Court WHY they wanted to put the question back on to the Census.  They lied.  Here we are.

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- because its a good idea - we should know how many citizens there are and none citizens there are - good enough reason? - since when the Constitution requires a "good" reason for anything? - who determines whats a good reason? - there is no good reason for an abortion that equals murdering a baby - so that means abortion must be illegal in all cases -ok? - so abortion is now illegal based on the "no good reason" theory?
  

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Re: Would you be OK with Trump defying a Supreme Court order about the Census question?
Reply #11 - Jul 6th, 2019 at 11:50am
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Was there a law that they ruled on?  If not what was the ruling based on?
  

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Re: Would you be OK with Trump defying a Supreme Court order about the Census question?
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Seawolf wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 11:50am:
Was there a law that they ruled on?  If not what was the ruling based on?


The ruling was based on Trump LYING to them. 

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Re: Would you be OK with Trump defying a Supreme Court order about the Census question?
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admin wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 11:40am:
- because its a good idea - we should know how many citizens there are and none citizens there are - good enough reason? - since when the Constitution requires a "good" reason for anything? - who determines whats a good reason? - there is no good reason for an abortion that equals murdering a baby - so that means abortion must be illegal in all cases -ok? - so abortion is now illegal based on the "no good reason" theory?


So why didn't they actually say something like that instead of LYING?

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Re: Would you be OK with Trump defying a Supreme Court order about the Census question?
Reply #14 - Jul 6th, 2019 at 12:12pm
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One may not agree with the Supreme Court decisions, but they appear to be difficult to pull of a confidence game upon.
  

 
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Yep, right wingers are happy with a White King.  They like that.

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Re: Would you be OK with Trump defying a Supreme Court order about the Census question?
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The census will be used to appropriate representatives in the house. Without an accurate count of the citizens, we won't have an accurate representation.

Based on 2015 estimates, California would get 4 additional Reps, Texas would get 2 to 3, Florida and NY might get 1 and a few more states might get one more.
  

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Re: Would you be OK with Trump defying a Supreme Court order about the Census question?
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FYI, the Roberts decision didn't say the question can't be asked. It just said that a good case for the question wasn't made. So, if the President adds it as an executive order, it isn't against the Constitution or contrary to Justice Robert's opinion.
  

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Re: Would you be OK with Trump defying a Supreme Court order about the Census question?
Reply #18 - Jul 6th, 2019 at 4:47pm
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KSU_Aviator wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 2:30pm:
The census will be used to appropriate representatives in the house. Without an accurate count of the citizens, we won't have an accurate representation.

Based on 2015 estimates, California would get 4 additional Reps, Texas would get 2 to 3, Florida and NY might get 1 and a few more states might get one more.


Ah, but representation is NOT based on the number of citizens. It is based on the number of persons, citizens or not.

Read your Constitution. Viz:

"Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed."

  

 
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Re: Would you be OK with Trump defying a Supreme Court order about the Census question?
Reply #19 - Jul 6th, 2019 at 5:43pm
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KSU_Aviator wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 4:39pm:
FYI, the Roberts decision didn't say the question can't be asked. It just said that a good case for the question wasn't made. So, if the President adds it as an executive order, it isn't against the Constitution or contrary to Justice Robert's opinion.


Actually it is contrary to Roberts opinion if Trump signs an EO to put the question on. 

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