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Reply #10 - Jul 8th, 2019 at 3:14pm
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Freon_Bale wrote on Jul 8th, 2019 at 3:12pm:
You're kidding, right?

I'm Jewish, and you've hated us for 2000 years. THAT'S a grudge.

Jews, on the other hand, ARE the people of forgive, but never forget. That's how we look at Germany. And Spain. And Egypt.

I don't believe you know the meaning of the word forgive, unless it relates to this horrible person you put in the oval office. Because he works for you, ANYTHING he does is forgivable. That is what makes you such hypocrites. Bible followers...of convenience.


freon ur losing it...chrisitians and jews are close...do you think obama and his party and supporters supported israel than more than bush, or trump, or reagan and their supporters???
  
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petep wrote on Jul 8th, 2019 at 3:14pm:
freon ur losing it...chrisitians and jews are close...do you think obama and his party and supporters supported israel than more than bush, or trump, or reagan and their supporters???


You are SO naive. No offense, but really, you are.
  
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Reply #12 - Jul 8th, 2019 at 3:20pm
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Freon_Bale wrote on Jul 8th, 2019 at 3:16pm:
You are SO naive. No offense, but really, you are.


I suppose you know more than the "Jewish news syndicate"

https://www.jns.org/opinion/would-democrats-reverse-trumps-pro-israel-moves/

you brag about getting news from many sources but you seem to be very much in the dark...
  
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petep wrote on Jul 8th, 2019 at 3:20pm:
I suppose you know more than the "Jewish news syndicate"

https://www.jns.org/opinion/would-democrats-reverse-trumps-pro-israel-moves/

you brag about getting news from many sources but you seem to be very much in the dark...


Wow. Just. Wow.

You keep reading your sources. You have an actual Jew right here. No fake news, no hearsay. I have skin in the game, both culturally, and in my family that lives in Israel.

All you are seeing is WHAT Trump is doing. What other presidents did. Not WHY. And the WHY is the only important part.

My culture is just as much threatened today as it was for the last 2000 years. We know it. And you clearly do not understand at all.

In some ways, I actually prefer the threat of the surrounding Muslims in Israel. At least they come right out and say they hate us and want to kill us. Trump has brought out the voices of the silent conservative Christians, whose goal is to do worse than destroy Israel. Their goal is to convert Jews to Christianity. I can name at least one person in this very forum who has admitted to wanting just that. So they give money to Israel, protection, etc, but it really is the same old Missionary strategy, just scaled up, and subtle.

No thanks.

We outlasted every other religion and culture, and we will EASILY outlast the short-lived conservative protestants.
  
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Reply #14 - Jul 8th, 2019 at 3:38pm
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Freon_Bale wrote on Jul 8th, 2019 at 3:35pm:
Wow. Just. Wow.

You keep reading your sources. You have an actual Jew right here. No fake news, no hearsay. I have skin in the game, both culturally, and in my family that lives in Israel.

All you are seeing is WHAT Trump is doing. What other presidents did. Not WHY. And the WHY is the only important part.

My culture is just as much threatened today as it was for the last 2000 years. We know it. And you clearly do not understand at all.

In some ways, I actually prefer the threat of the surrounding Muslims in Israel. At least they come right out and say they hate us and want to kill us. Trump has brought out the voices of the silent conservative Christians, whose goal is to do worse than destroy Israel. Their goal is to convert Jews to Christianity. I can name at least one person in this very forum who has admitted to wanting just that. So they give money to Israel, protection, etc, but it really is the same old Missionary strategy, just scaled up, and subtle.

No thanks.

We outlasted every other religion and culture, and we will EASILY outlast the short-lived conservative protestants.

Is it true that the Grand Canyon was formed when one of you Jews accidentally dropped a nickel in a gopher hole?
  


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Reply #15 - Jul 8th, 2019 at 4:14pm
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Not this far. Any road, I'm going to AfroFuture Fest and pay the doubled admission price so I've just done my part.
  

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Reply #16 - Jul 8th, 2019 at 4:22pm
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Freon_Bale wrote on Jul 8th, 2019 at 3:35pm:
Wow. Just. Wow.

You keep reading your sources. You have an actual Jew right here. No fake news, no hearsay. I have skin in the game, both culturally, and in my family that lives in Israel.

All you are seeing is WHAT Trump is doing. What other presidents did. Not WHY. And the WHY is the only important part.

My culture is just as much threatened today as it was for the last 2000 years. We know it. And you clearly do not understand at all.

In some ways, I actually prefer the threat of the surrounding Muslims in Israel. At least they come right out and say they hate us and want to kill us. Trump has brought out the voices of the silent conservative Christians, whose goal is to do worse than destroy Israel. Their goal is to convert Jews to Christianity. I can name at least one person in this very forum who has admitted to wanting just that. So they give money to Israel, protection, etc, but it really is the same old Missionary strategy, just scaled up, and subtle.

No thanks.

We outlasted every other religion and culture, and we will EASILY outlast the short-lived conservative protestants.


in my experience and travels the jewish people living in israel are quite a bit different in terms of their politics vs the jewish people in this country...i'm sure you have your reasons for supporting the democratic party israeli platform.
  
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Reply #17 - Jul 8th, 2019 at 6:16pm
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petep wrote on Jul 8th, 2019 at 12:46pm:
there are quite a few prominent political candidates who seem to support this...

It got me thinking...my great grandfather was from lithuania, captured by russians, escaped from a prison camp, came to america...my grandmother came from ireland, facing great persecution...her parents and her and siblings made it here...mom died, she and siblings in orphanage...dad died, she went to work 12 hour days, 5 days a week, at age 12, as all siblings at orphanage were younger...this was the "irish need not apply days"

never one in my entire life did I ever think about where I am in my life as a function of my ancestors lot in life...

maybe if I grew up with bad parents, in an abusive home, I may be able to cast some blame on my parents, for some period of time before accepting responsibility for my own life...but it'd never occur to me to go back to my grandparents or great grandparents situation...  let alone what, 4-7 generations back....


It's all red meat for the Dem base.

The losers in the War of Northern Aggression can continue crying that they're the real victims of racists. The just reparations of allowing them to wallow in self-pity over their loss from multiple generations ago.

Hmmm, I see a parallel! 
  

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Reply #18 - Jul 8th, 2019 at 10:24pm
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Freon_Bale wrote on Jul 8th, 2019 at 3:12pm:
You're kidding, right?

I'm Jewish, and you've hated us for 2000 years. THAT'S a grudge.

Jews, on the other hand, ARE the people of forgive, but never forget. That's how we look at Germany. And Spain. And Egypt.

I don't believe you know the meaning of the word forgive, unless it relates to this horrible person you put in the oval office. Because he works for you, ANYTHING he does is forgivable. That is what makes you such hypocrites. Bible followers...of convenience.

We hate you? There are some serious mental issues of paranoia in your life.
  


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Seawolf wrote on Jul 8th, 2019 at 10:24pm:
We hate you? There are some serious mental issues of paranoia in your life.


No, not you. You're worse. You don't want to kill us, you want to convert us. Stay out of my soul, man. You cannot possibly understand how fun it is to be Jewish. I truly feel sorry for you. Not because our Faiths are different, but because you only have Faith, no culture. Maybe if you protestants survive another thousand years, then maybe you will have a culture, but right now, you don't. Nothing ties you together except your faith, and we have found that in the long run, culture matters more.
  
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