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Re: Police say man cut Arizona teen's throat because rap music made him feel unsafe
Reply #20 - Jul 10th, 2019 at 10:11am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 9:51am:
Tell me again how many slave owners there were in the US before the Civil War?Greg


You do strike me as a fellow who needs all of the education he can get. 

In 1830, 3,776 free blacks in the U.S. owned black slaves.

Oops.  Are the ancestors of these black slavers going to have to pay reparations, too? Cheesy

Chew on that one for awhile, pupil.

Greg55_99 wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 9:57am:


And blacks, while only 13% of the U.S. population, commit 50% of the murders in the U.S. And yes, sadly, their victims are usually black.

So, pupil, if you are really concerned about blacks being killed, you yourself just proved that you need to concentrate on fellow blacks as the root of the problem, not any other race.
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Re: Police say man cut Arizona teen's throat because rap music made him feel unsafe
Reply #21 - Jul 10th, 2019 at 10:13am
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PaleoCon wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 10:11am:
You do strike me as a fellow who needs all of the education he can get. 

In 1830, 3,776 free blacks in the U.S. owned black slaves.

Oops.  Are the ancestors of these black slavers going to have to pay reparations, too? Cheesy

Chew on that one for awhile, pupil.


Well then, tell me how many free Whites owned slaves?  Got a number?

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Re: Police say man cut Arizona teen's throat because rap music made him feel unsafe
Reply #22 - Jul 10th, 2019 at 10:20am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 10:13am:
Well then, tell me how many free Whites owned slaves?  Got a number?Greg


Six percent of the Southern population owned slaves. Of those, only 1% owned more than five.  Ninety four percent owned no slave.

Nationwide in 1860, the estimate is 1.4% to 2% of the population owned slaves.

Now, your turn.  What's the percentage of murders committed by blacks in America?
  

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Re: Police say man cut Arizona teen's throat because rap music made him feel unsafe
Reply #23 - Jul 10th, 2019 at 10:21am
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PaleoCon wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 10:11am:
You do strike me as a fellow who needs all of the education he can get. 

In 1830, 3,776 free blacks in the U.S. owned black slaves.

Oops.  Are the ancestors of these black slavers going to have to pay reparations, too? Cheesy

Chew on that one for awhile, pupil.



Oh...  I see where this came from.  You didn't post the entire thingie. 

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Facts: "The Negro slave-holders, like the white ones, fought to keep their chattels in the Civil War." Rogers also notes that some black men, including those in New Orleans at the outbreak of the War, "fought to perpetuate slavery."

How Many Slaves Did Blacks Own?

So what do the actual numbers of black slave owners and their slaves tell us? In 1830, the year most carefully studied by Carter G. Woodson, about 13.7 percent (319,599) of the black population was free. Of these, 3,776 free Negroes owned 12,907 slaves, out of a total of 2,009,043 slaves owned in the entire United States, so the numbers of slaves owned by black people over all was quite small by comparison with the number owned by white people. In his essay, " 'The Known World' of Free Black Slaveholders," Thomas J. Pressly, using Woodson's statistics, calculated that 54 (or about 1 percent) of these black slave owners in 1830 owned between 20 and 84 slaves; 172 (about 4 percent) owned between 10 to 19 slaves; and 3,550 (about 94 percent) each owned between 1 and 9 slaves. Crucially, 42 percent owned just one slave.


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And blacks, while only 13% of the U.S. population, commit 50% of the murders in the U.S. And yes, sadly, their victims are usually black.

So, pupil, if you are really concerned about blacks being killed, you yourself just proved that you need to concentrate on fellow blacks as the root of the problem, not any other race.


Oh...  So if Black people commit 50% of the murders and the majority of those are against OTHER Black people...  Why do you care?

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Re: Police say man cut Arizona teen's throat because rap music made him feel unsafe
Reply #24 - Jul 10th, 2019 at 10:23am
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PaleoCon wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 10:20am:
Six percent of the Southern population owned slaves. Of those, only 1% owned more than five.  Ninety four percent owned no slave.

Nationwide in 1860, the estimate is 1.4% to 2% of the population owned slaves.

Now, your turn.  What's the percentage of murders committed by blacks in America?



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Six percent of the Southern population owned slaves. Of those, only 1% owned more than five.  Ninety four percent owned no slave.


So how many actual people is that?  Got a number?

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Reply #25 - Jul 10th, 2019 at 10:33am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 10:21am:
Oh...  I see where this came from.  You didn't post the entire thingie.  https://www.theroot.com/did-black-people-own-slaves-1790895436


The number was small because the number of free blacks was small. But you learned something new today, didn't you pupil?  Some blacks did enslave their own people, just like they did in Africa.

Reality is so much more complex than your little leftist fantasy, isn't it?

Greg55_99 wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 10:21am:
Oh...  So if Black people commit 50% of the murders and the majority of those are against OTHER Black people...  Why do you care? Greg


You just made my day.  THAT really is the right question to ask yourself, not me. Most of us that are falsely labelled as "racist" actually do care very deeply about what happens to those innocent victims of murder, regardless of the color of their skin.  We are saddened when black babies are slaughtered in abortion clinics; would a racist do that?

We cherish ALL innocent life.

Are you woke yet?
  

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Re: Police say man cut Arizona teen's throat because rap music made him feel unsafe
Reply #26 - Jul 10th, 2019 at 10:37am
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PaleoCon wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 10:20am:
Six percent of the Southern population owned slaves.


Oh you poor thing .. Math, as it seems everything else, just isn't one of your strong suit.. is it?

Let me try to point out another of your myriad problems.  Let's see if you get it..


How many 5 year old white girls owned slaves?

  

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Re: Police say man cut Arizona teen's throat because rap music made him feel unsafe
Reply #27 - Jul 10th, 2019 at 10:38am
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PaleoCon wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 10:33am:
The number was small because the number of free blacks was small. But you learned something new today, didn't you pupil?  Some blacks did enslave their own people, just like they did in Africa.

Reality is so much more complex than your little leftist fantasy, isn't it?


You just made my day.  THAT really is the right question to ask yourself, not me. Most of us that are falsely labelled as "racist" actually do care very deeply about what happens to those innocent victims of murder, regardless of the color of their skin.  We are saddened when black babies are slaughtered in abortion clinics; would a racist do that?

We cherish ALL innocent life.

Are you woke yet?


Oh...  I see where you've been getting this nonsense....  Let's see now...

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In an effort to minimize the importance of slavery, modern neoconfederates will focus on the percentage of slave owners in the United States and say that because it was very low, the confederates could not have been fighting to preserve slavery. They’re not the only ones. “For generations historians have been almost unanimous in emphasizing that black slaves were owned by a surprisingly small minority of whites.

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In 1860, the 393,975 slave owners in the slave states were out of a population of 12,240,293, or 3.22% of the population of the 15 slave states were slave owners. But we have to remember that only free people owned slaves, and that total population of the slave states included enslaved people themselves, so we have to adjust our numbers to reflect only free people. Therefore, the 393,975 slave owners was out of a free population of 8,289,782, or 4.75% of the free population of the slave states being slave owners.

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That, however, does not tell us the extent of slave ownership. To better understand the extent of slavery’s impact, we need to realize a slave owner was the one person in a family who legally owned slaves. That person was usually the patriarch. There would be a spouse and sons and daughters who directly benefited from the family’s slave ownership and who stood to inherit enslaved people. If we look at the Census of 1860 we see that 30.8% of the free families in the confederacy owned slaves.


https://studycivilwar.wordpress.com/2017/04/18/the-extent-of-slave-ownership-in-...

Yeah...  I see now...

Oh, of course 100% of Southerners COULD own slaves.  You forgot that figure.

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Re: Police say man cut Arizona teen's throat because rap music made him feel unsafe
Reply #28 - Jul 10th, 2019 at 11:03am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 10:23am:
Hmmm....So how many actual people is that?  Got a number?Greg


Are you math challenged? Six percent of 5.5 million (1860 Southern population) is 330,000.
  

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Re: Police say man cut Arizona teen's throat because rap music made him feel unsafe
Reply #29 - Jul 10th, 2019 at 11:05am
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PaleoCon wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 11:03am:
Are you math challenged? Six percent of 5.5 million (1860 Southern population) is 330,000.


See above.

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