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Don't get the USSC census ruling
Jul 11th, 2019 at 7:07pm
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USSC didn't like Trump's "justifications" for the citizenship question.  Since when is it the USSC's role to decide what's "justified"?  The legislative and executive branch determines policy, the USSC steps in if something is unconstitutional, which they didn't determine in this case.
  
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Re: Don't get the USSC census ruling
Reply #1 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 7:18pm
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Trump got challenged in court.  He sent his people in to argue his case.  He lied.  Got caught lying.  Case got sent back.

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Anyone with a non-troll response?
  
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That's the answer.  He lied and got caught.  Case got sent back.  Easy.

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Greg55_99 wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 7:27pm:
That's the answer.  He lied and got caught.  Case got sent back.  Easy.

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The executive doesn't have to "justify" ANYTHING to the USSC.  Blink twice if you get it yet.
  
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patrick2 wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 7:31pm:
The executive doesn't have to "justify" ANYTHING to the USSC.  Blink twice if you get it yet.


Sure they do.  Marbury vs. Madison.  1803.

  

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Reply #6 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 7:45pm
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patrick2 wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 7:31pm:
The executive doesn't have to "justify" ANYTHING to the USSC.  Blink twice if you get it yet.


You would be correct in the absence of any lawsuit against the executive.

A number of parties joined hands in this case to challenge Trump's move to add the citizenship question to the census. The Supreme Court decided to hear the case. As part of the usual legal procedure, the plaintiffs made their case, and then the defense (Trump) made its case. The Supreme Court was not convinced by Trump's case.

I can't imagine why, since it had become obvious the primary intention of the citizenship question was not to determine who is and isn't a citizen, but rather to discourage non-citizens from completing their census forms. This was quite transparent, since a key staff member in the Trump administration was pushing for the question to be added for just that purpose. The motive was purely political: to discourage more apportionment of House seats to states with larger immigrant populations, which states generally lean Democratic in major elections. Trump blew it by concocting a less than credible excuse for adding the question. In fact, it was a cynical attempt that beggared belief: the administration claimed that adding the question would reduce voting rights discrimination, when in reality its effect would be to increase voting rights discrimination. Ludicrous.

Now if you think this is a troll response, you have an extremely limited understanding of how our democracy works, and a defective understanding of what our Constitution says.

Your problem, not ours.

  

 
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Re: Don't get the USSC census ruling
Reply #7 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 8:20pm
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If Obama could take it off then another POTUS can put it back..

Simple..

The judiciary  has become to partisn..
For example..

Ok for executive order for DAXA.. bad for executive order cancelling DACA


  
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Re: Don't get the USSC census ruling
Reply #8 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 8:32pm
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patrick2 wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 7:25pm:
Anyone with a non-troll response?


Probably not. A lot of trolls and stupid here. Just to make the socialists’ mad, I will write that I am a legal citizen on report when I fill it out. I hope everyone does that is legal.

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Re: Don't get the USSC census ruling
Reply #9 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 8:34pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 7:27pm:
That's the answer.  He lied and got caught.  Case got sent back.  Easy.

Greg


What was the lie Greg?

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