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Re: Conservatives have an assimilation problem
Reply #10 - Jul 25th, 2019 at 11:19am
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Danny wrote on Jul 25th, 2019 at 11:17am:
I love how we are free to dismiss it too.

Sure. But that's not going to go very far in convincing people the article is not spot on.

It actually confirms the point.
  

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Re: Conservatives have an assimilation problem
Reply #11 - Jul 25th, 2019 at 11:20am
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TowardLiberty wrote on Jul 25th, 2019 at 11:19am:
Sure. But that's not going to go very far in convincing people the article is not spot on.

It actually confirms the point.


And we should care why? There is no National Conservative Party. Just conservatives who mostly are Republicans.
  

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And I said that Trump should look at his district. 


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Reply #12 - Jul 25th, 2019 at 11:23am
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Danny wrote on Jul 25th, 2019 at 11:20am:
And we should care why? There is no National Conservative Party.

You should care because to the extent you make similar arguments as the national conservatives, you too are failing to assimilate to American values and could mistakenly expend efforts in undermining our heritage and freedom.

I never claimed that there was a national conservative party, but thanks for clearing that up for those who were confused on that point!
  

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Reply #13 - Jul 25th, 2019 at 11:24am
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Danny wrote on Jul 25th, 2019 at 11:20am:
And we should care why? There is no National Conservative Party. Just conservatives who mostly are Republicans.


If trumpublicans are abandoning conservative ideology, then what do trumpublicans stand for?  Besides Trump, himself?  Not fiscal responsibility, not free trade, not small government...
  

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Reply #14 - Jul 25th, 2019 at 11:25am
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Danny wrote on Jul 25th, 2019 at 11:20am:
And we should care why? There is no National Conservative Party. Just conservatives who mostly are Republicans.

The conservative Democrats have become Independents, since the Democrat Party has embraced Marxism and want to follow the path towards totalitarianism and State Control of what we are allowed see and what we are allowed to say and what we are allowed to do.
  

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Re: Conservatives have an assimilation problem
Reply #15 - Jul 25th, 2019 at 11:26am
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TowardLiberty wrote on Jul 25th, 2019 at 11:23am:
You should care because to the extent you make similar arguments as the national conservatives, you too are failing to assimilate to American values and could mistakenly expend efforts in undermining our heritage and freedom.

I never claimed that there was a national conservative party, but thanks for clearing that up for those who were confused on that point!


No such animal. Exist only in her article and the confused minds of Libertarians who like to label people.

I'm sure most of us can figure out what our values are and know none undermine our heritage and freedom.

Excuse me now I have a Buddhist temple I have to get back to.
  

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And I said that Trump should look at his district. 


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Reply #16 - Jul 25th, 2019 at 11:27am
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Wally Wants A Wall wrote on Jul 25th, 2019 at 11:25am:
The conservative Democrats have become Independents, since the Democrat Party has embraced Marxism and want to follow the path towards totalitarianism and State Control of what we are allowed see and what we are allowed to say and what we are allowed to do.

You're off topic. This discussion isn't about what's wrong with the left. It's about what's wrong with the right and how your party is also turning toward state control and away from liberalism.
  

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Re: Conservatives have an assimilation problem
Reply #17 - Jul 25th, 2019 at 11:29am
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TowardLiberty wrote on Jul 25th, 2019 at 11:27am:
You're off topic. This discussion isn't about what's wrong with the left. It's about what's wrong with the right and how your party is also turning toward state control and away from liberalism.


There it is. What's wrong with the right and the Republican party.

Like I said and should have stuck with. Article is a waste of time and is drivel written by a biased loon.

Yes I shot the sheriff messenger but I did not shoot the deputy
  

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And I said that Trump should look at his district. 


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Re: Conservatives have an assimilation problem
Reply #18 - Jul 25th, 2019 at 11:33am
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Danny wrote on Jul 25th, 2019 at 11:26am:
No such animal. Exist only in her article and the confused minds of Libertarians who like to label people.


Oh, is that right?

Did libertarians just stage a mock convention in the name of the national conservatives?

Sorry friend, you're not up on what's happening on your side of the aisle these days. National conservatism is a real thing, with real people supporting it and so on.

It roughly coincides with the rise of Trump and his populist-right movement.

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I'm sure most of us can figure out what our values are and know none undermine our heritage and freedom.

Ok. Cool.

Tell me how industrial policy, tariffs and bailouts don't undermine our freedom or heritage. Or how we can give up on religious freedom without losing our freedom. I'll wait.

And before you call straw-man, maybe you should familiarize with some of speeches made last week at the conference you don't seem to know about. The nationalist right is on record proposing this stuff. There wasn't a libertarian in the room.
  

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Re: Conservatives have an assimilation problem
Reply #19 - Jul 25th, 2019 at 11:34am
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Danny wrote on Jul 25th, 2019 at 11:29am:
There it is. What's wrong with the right and the Republican party.

Like I said and should have stuck with. Article is a waste of time and is drivel written by a biased loon.

Yes I shot the sheriff messenger but I did not shoot the deputy

I'm sorry, what?
  

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