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Aug 10th, 2019 at 6:24am
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Police draw guns on Yankees GM Brian Cashman after mistaking him for car thief

New York Yankees general manager isn’t with the team this weekend in Toronto.

After the events that unfolded on Friday, he probably wishes he’d made that trip.

According to the New York Post, a case of mistaken identity led Cashman into a tense encounter with Connecticut police.

Cashman was reportedly surrounded by officers, with guns drawn, after he was confused for a car thief in Connecticut.

It turns out Cashman's white Jeep Wrangler matched the description of another vehicle police were searching for. Adding to the confusion was the fact Cashman’s jeep had been reported stolen earlier in New York last Saturday. Though the jeep was returned this week, it had not been removed from the stolen vehicle database.

The New York Post report notes that Cashman was driving to the Norwalk Police Department to have his car processed for evidence when the traffic stop took place at a gas station in Darien.

Here’s more from the report:

“ According to Cashman, Darien cops were already “responding to someone in a white Jeep that was brandishing a gun in a local doctor’s office.”
To make matters worse, when Darien police ran Cashman’s license plates, the vehicle came up stolen because “the NYPD never took me off the stolen car list,” he said.
As Cashman pulled out of the gas station as many as five patrol cars zoned in on him and between six to nine officers got out of their cars with their “guns drawn,” he said.
“They executed a very tactful interception,” Cashman said.


Talk about wrong place, wrong time.

Fortunately, all turned out well. Cashman followed the instructions given to him and was quickly cleared. He was even given an escort to the police station so that he wouldn’t be mistaken again.


“ “They’re clearly very professional and trained and they asked me to turn my car off, exit the vehicle, walk backwards towards them…they were executing their duty.”


“ “The public should take encouragement when someone is in a stolen vehicle they’re not going to get very far,” he added.
“I have high respect for all law enforcement. They do an amazing job whether you’re in Connecticut and New York City — and sometimes unique circumstances can occur.”
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/police-draw-guns-on-yankees-gm-brian-cashman-after-...

Great Job Police, and great job civilianCool
  

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Reply #1 - Aug 10th, 2019 at 6:29am
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Liberals- "But blacks follow the rules"
BS! 99% of the claimed wrongful shootings could have been prevented if the civilian had followed instructions.
  

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Reply #2 - Aug 10th, 2019 at 7:18am
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I'm always a bit amused by those who claim that we should always do what the police say and who also claim that we need our guns to protect ourselves from the armed enforcers of a tyrannical government.
  

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Maestro wrote on Aug 10th, 2019 at 7:18am:
I'm always a bit amused by those who claim that we should always do what the police say and who also claim that we need our guns to protect ourselves from the armed enforcers of a tyrannical government.

I'm not one of them.
  

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JohnnyBLate wrote on Aug 10th, 2019 at 7:22am:
I'm not one of them.


So do you believe resisting the police is sometimes justified or that we don't need guns to protect ourselves from the agents of a tyrannical government?
  

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Reply #5 - Aug 10th, 2019 at 7:45am
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When surrounded by police with guns drawn, is that a time to not listen?
  

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Abe wrote on Aug 10th, 2019 at 7:45am:
When surrounded by police with guns drawn, is that a time to not listen?


But isn't the idea that having guns to protect ourselves from the agents of a tyrannical government is necessary because said agents will also be pointing guns at us?
  

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Reply #7 - Aug 10th, 2019 at 7:53am
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Maestro wrote on Aug 10th, 2019 at 7:18am:
I'm always a bit amused by those who claim that we should always do what the police say and who also claim that we need our guns to protect ourselves from the armed enforcers of a tyrannical government.


Then let me amuse you a bit.  I claim both things because they are not mutually exclusive.  Of course, I am not so uninformed that I  don 't recognize that , as you so obviously are.
  
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Maestro wrote on Aug 10th, 2019 at 7:52am:
But isn't the idea that having guns to protect ourselves from the agents of a tyrannical government is necessary because said agents will also be pointing guns at us?


Absolutely. As a multi-gun owner I'm just wondering aloud when is the right time to resist when they are standing over you with guns drawn.

Sounds to me in the case here that resisting would not have been a good ending. Smiley

In fact I'm hard pressed to come up with a scenario where resisting will ever end well...then again I suspect that is the direction where this thread will be taken. Wink


  

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Abe wrote on Aug 10th, 2019 at 7:57am:
In fact I'm hard pressed to come up with a scenario where resisting will ever end well.




And that's the thing.

It seems to me that a lot of the non-Libertarians* making the "I need guns to defend myself against the government" argument don't really mean it.

When given real world examples, they usually fall back on "do what you're told" argument.

*Libertarians tend to be different. They rarely make the "do what you're told" argument.
  

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