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Reply #40 - Aug 13th, 2019 at 3:50pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 3:33pm:
What does any of this shit have to do with mass shootings with assault weapons?


When you can provide a coherent logical fact based argument as to how your banning semi auto .223 will stop mass shootings, then we can engage in a logical productive debate. You have never done that.

In England they banned handguns after their sublime shooting.

Is that how it works. Whatever a bad guy uses as a weapon of choice gets banned. Because that’s the incrementalism that takes place. It’s fairly obvious what the end game is.

  
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Reply #41 - Aug 13th, 2019 at 3:52pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 3:48pm:
Dumb ass, the op is talking about mass shootings which in the last 5 years are not rare unless you live in la la land

compared to the mass shootings every single week in Chicago...these other "mass shootings" by seriously disturbed individuals are rarer than hen's teeth!

Why don't you and your ilk rail on the Thugs and gangsters that are preying on the minority communities and have made some of America's inner cities into gang ruled war zones.
  

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Reply #42 - Aug 13th, 2019 at 3:58pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 3:48pm:
Dumb ass, the op is talking about mass shootings which in the last 5 years are not rare unless you live in la la land


Let's see your proof that mass shootings are not rare.  I've shown you that they are extremely rare; let's see you try to refute that.

The Mother Jones data is right there for you to challenge if you'd like. Mass shootings account for a tiny fraction of homicides each year.  Rifles (since you're demonstrably ignorant on firearms, the AR-15 is a rifle; make a note of that) are rarely used in homicides each year.
  

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Reply #43 - Aug 13th, 2019 at 4:05pm
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Facts and data. Yes, they are rare.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2015/10/1/18000524/mass-sh...

I suppose if we say let’s only look at a sample of white males, between 18-25, who shoot at a place of work, a school or movie theatre, who use an ar-15 and we then consider that the entire population of our data set.

Then yes, all shootings are with an ar-15.
  
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Reply #44 - Aug 13th, 2019 at 4:14pm
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Wally Wants A Wall wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 3:52pm:
compared to the mass shootings every single week in Chicago...these other "mass shootings" by seriously disturbed individuals are rarer than hen's teeth!

Why don't you and your ilk rail on the Thugs and gangsters that are preying on the minority communities and have made some of America's inner cities into gang ruled war zones.

Because this thread is about the mass shootings done by thugs with assault weapons.  If mass shootings occur every single week, then how can you say they are rare.  You are really stupid
  

PaleoCon wrote on Jul 17th, 2019 at 10:18am:
No blacks will buy that cap.  Look at the bill! It's all curved like normal people wear. The bill of the hat is supposed to be flat with a shiny goofy looking sticker in the middle of it.

No self respecting thug would be without his sticker!

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Reply #45 - Aug 13th, 2019 at 4:27pm
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PaleoCon wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 3:58pm:
Let's see your proof that mass shootings are not rare.  I've shown you that they are extremely rare; let's see you try to refute that.

The Mother Jones data is right there for you to challenge if you'd like. Mass shootings account for a tiny fraction of homicides each year.  Rifles (since you're demonstrably ignorant on firearms, the AR-15 is a rifle; make a note of that) are rarely used in homicides each year.


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In the 50 years before the Texas tower shooting, there were just 25 public mass shootings in which four or more people were killed, according to author and criminologist Grant Duwe. Since then, the number has risen dramatically, and many of the deadliest shootings have occurred within the past few years.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/national/mass-shootings-in-america/
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Klarevas examined incidents before, during and after the assault weapons ban when six or more people were shot and killed.
• 1984 to 1994: 19 incidents
• 1994 to 2004 (ban is in effect): 12 incidents
• 2004 to 2014: 34 incidents

https://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2018/feb/23/ted-deutch/did-mass-sh...



  

PaleoCon wrote on Jul 17th, 2019 at 10:18am:
No blacks will buy that cap.  Look at the bill! It's all curved like normal people wear. The bill of the hat is supposed to be flat with a shiny goofy looking sticker in the middle of it.

No self respecting thug would be without his sticker!

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Reply #46 - Aug 13th, 2019 at 4:29pm
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petep wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 4:05pm:
Facts and data. Yes, they are rare.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2015/10/1/18000524/mass-sh...

I suppose if we say let’s only look at a sample of white males, between 18-25, who shoot at a place of work, a school or movie theatre, who use an ar-15 and we then consider that the entire population of our data set.

Then yes, all shootings are with an ar-15.

We are not comparing mass shootings all shooting deaths.  Saying they are extremely rare is a lie.
  

PaleoCon wrote on Jul 17th, 2019 at 10:18am:
No blacks will buy that cap.  Look at the bill! It's all curved like normal people wear. The bill of the hat is supposed to be flat with a shiny goofy looking sticker in the middle of it.

No self respecting thug would be without his sticker!

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Reply #47 - Aug 13th, 2019 at 4:31pm
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So we should rollback the 1968 gun laws and return to a time when anyone could buy guns mail order and public schools had marksmanship programs and you could  bring your own guns to school?

Sounds like that’s what you are suggesting since they were so rare when those were the legislative conditions pre 1968.

Or do you want to pivot and get out of the corner you are standing in.
  
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Reply #48 - Aug 13th, 2019 at 4:33pm
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petep wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 4:31pm:
So we should rollback the 1968 gun laws and return to a time when anyone could buy guns mail order and public schools had marksmanship programs and you could  bring your own guns to school?

Sounds like that’s what you are suggesting since they were so rare when those were the legislative conditions pre 1968.

Or do you want to pivot and get out of the corner you are standing in.

I am talking about assault weapons.  None of what you say has anything to do with assault weapons
  

PaleoCon wrote on Jul 17th, 2019 at 10:18am:
No blacks will buy that cap.  Look at the bill! It's all curved like normal people wear. The bill of the hat is supposed to be flat with a shiny goofy looking sticker in the middle of it.

No self respecting thug would be without his sticker!

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Reply #49 - Aug 13th, 2019 at 4:39pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 4:33pm:
I am talking about assault weapons.  None of what you say has anything to do with assault weapons


So you are arguing if there were semi auto guns pre 1968 when there were almost no restrictive gun laws, the presence of such weapons would have induced more mass shootings?

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