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Re: A challenge to the White Supremacist Trash out there
Reply #10 - Aug 14th, 2019 at 10:18am
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Vypr wrote on Aug 14th, 2019 at 10:10am:
Here's what's funny. You NEVER challenge Stu, heartland (RIP), D-Man, patrick or anyone else on the right with that message. Your message is nice, but you lecture those left of you while patently ignoring those next to you or right of you. That's why you look like a fake and an opportunist. Just once why don't you challenge Stu? Or the latest, D-Man? Or patrick? I assume you never will, because your petitions to religious inclusion are just empty words (or so they come across) being aimed so narrowly and pointedly ignoring those in your own political aisle.

In fact, our side has called out Stu and others on this forum, I can not say that your side has done the same that I can ever recall.
  

"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

Charles Carroll, signer of the DOI
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Re: A challenge to the White Supremacist Trash out there
Reply #11 - Aug 14th, 2019 at 10:26am
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Seawolf wrote on Aug 14th, 2019 at 10:16am:
They are empty to you because of your political bias.  My words are true, and is across the board.  I did not state that Dems will go to hell or ...  I simply made a statement of fact for all to read.  God created everyone of us, so to mock someone because of any of the descriptions I laid out is, in essence mocking our Creator.  I chose Greg's remarks because, we actually do get along despite our political differences.  I have have called out Stu in the past but let's you and me be honest, what does it accomplish?  Few people have ever had a change of heart in their political views over the past decade or two.

So, you "called out Stu" once in the past? But you continue to call out those left of you continuously. There is clear racism or worse with Stu, patrick, D-man, and the departed heartland. You have said not word to them or others on the right the entire time I have been here. But you will challenge those to your left. Your Christianity is beholden to your partisanship.
  

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Re: A challenge to the White Supremacist Trash out there
Reply #12 - Aug 14th, 2019 at 10:33am
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Vypr wrote on Aug 14th, 2019 at 10:26am:
So, you "called out Stu" once in the past? But you continue to call out those left of you continuously. There is clear racism or worse with Stu, patrick, D-man, and the departed heartland. You have said not word to them or others on the right the entire time I have been here. But you will challenge those to your left. Your Christianity is beholden to your partisanship.

Are you asking me for a list of people I have called out on while dodging my question if you have ever called out your side?  Is that not a plank in your own eye Vyper?  I mean if you want to hold me to a standard, you better be practicing what you preach and I have never seen you call out your side.  Care to tell us who you have called out?  The problem with your so called concern is it is hypocritical at best.
  

"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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Re: A challenge to the White Supremacist Trash out there
Reply #13 - Aug 14th, 2019 at 10:50am
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Seawolf wrote on Aug 14th, 2019 at 10:33am:
Are you asking me for a list of people I have called out on while dodging my question if you have ever called out your side?  Is that not a plank in your own eye Vyper?  I mean if you want to hold me to a standard, you better be practicing what you preach and I have never seen you call out your side.  Care to tell us who you have called out?  The problem with your so called concern is it is hypocritical at best.

I don't see the centrists or even the leftists calling blacks negroes, or what heartland was removed for, calling them n***ers. I don't see anything from the moderate right, the centrists or the left like this:

Archie wrote on Jul 31st, 2019 at 2:06pm:
race mixing with Africans by non-Africans is reversing evolution on one’s own family line. It is a crime against one’s ancestors.


The D-Man wrote on Aug 3rd, 2019 at 5:41pm:
Diversity is our greatest strength. We wouldn't want to lose it because of race mixing, would we?


RWB wrote on Jan 12th, 2019 at 12:16am:
WHITE POWER WHITE PRIDE


stu_gatze wrote on Jun 4th, 2018 at 9:37am:
No, we are NOT all born equal with regard to intelligence levels

Understanding that TRUTH helps to UNDERSTAND what we SEE today with REGARD to BLACKS and their normal BEHAVIOR patterns, and with REGARD to CRIME and VIOLENCE, LOW INTELLIGENCE and LAZINESS.


stu_gatze wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 12:40pm:
we are NOT all equal with regard to race.


stu_gatze wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 1:32pm:
You REFUSE to see the REAL differences between the races, .. nor do you want to understand the irrational violence and savage behavior of most blacks that are so many that engage in violent crime, but it is true, along with the low intelligence levels.


stu_gatze wrote on Jun 4th, 2018 at 9:37am:
the TRUTH is that without constant help, black africans CANNOT make it in MOST things on their own.




  

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Re: A challenge to the White Supremacist Trash out there
Reply #14 - Aug 14th, 2019 at 10:56am
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Vypr wrote on Aug 14th, 2019 at 10:50am:
I don't see the centrists or even the leftists calling blacks negroes, or what heartland was removed for, calling them n***ers. I don't see anything from the moderate right, the centrists or the left like this:












I have seen your side make some really sexist and vulgar remarks on this forum, some directed to Jas and you have been deafly silent.  Just an FYI, I am not an avid follower of Stu and often ignore his posts, as I usually do with yours and others.  If you want me to monitor all of his comments, I have to remind you, I am not the political forum monitor.  Now when was the last time you called out your side for their overly sexist and derogatory remarks?
  

"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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Re: A challenge to the White Supremacist Trash out there
Reply #15 - Aug 14th, 2019 at 11:03am
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Vypr wrote on Aug 14th, 2019 at 10:50am:
I don't see the centrists or even the leftists calling blacks negroes, or what heartland was removed for, calling them n***ers. I don't see anything from the moderate right, the centrists or the left like this:









The more pointed observation that gets to the heart of the problem is, do you see me making these remarks?  You would have a valid case if I was making similar remarks.  I do not hold you accountable for what others may say, you can not hold myself or others accountable for someone elses behavior.  I am a hypocrite if MY actions reflect this behavior.  The problem is that this forum is HIGHLY partisan and you have an agenda.  So nothing you or others say are something I take to heart knowing full well what goes on here everyday.
  

"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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Re: A challenge to the White Supremacist Trash out there
Reply #16 - Aug 14th, 2019 at 11:09am
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Seawolf wrote on Aug 14th, 2019 at 11:03am:
The more pointed observation that gets to the heart of the problem is, do you see me making these remarks?  You would have a valid case if I was making similar remarks.  I do not hold you accountable for what others may say, you can not hold myself or others accountable for someone elses behavior.  I am a hypocrite if MY actions reflect this behavior.  The problem is that this forum is HIGHLY partisan and you have an agenda.  So nothing you or others say are something I take to heart knowing full well what goes on here everyday.

You are the one invoking his Christianity in the political debate:
Seawolf wrote on Aug 14th, 2019 at 9:51am:
Better yet, go to church learn that we are all God's creation.  He made us all in his image.  If you are not comfortable with people of color, race, sex, rich, poor or political persuasion, heaven will never be for you.


You invoke your Christianity selectively, again, for partisan purposes. This cheapens your faith.
  

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Re: A challenge to the White Supremacist Trash out there
Reply #17 - Aug 14th, 2019 at 11:12am
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Vypr wrote on Aug 14th, 2019 at 11:09am:
You are the one invoking his Christianity in the political debate:

You invoke your Christianity selectively, again, for partisan purposes. This cheapens your faith.

Your opinion, but I am not really concerned about your opinion, as you are not too concerned about mine.  Pretty much the nature of this forum.  Just being honest.
  

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Re: A challenge to the White Supremacist Trash out there
Reply #18 - Aug 14th, 2019 at 11:21am
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Seawolf wrote on Aug 14th, 2019 at 11:12am:
Your opinion, but I am not really concerned about your opinion, as you are not too concerned about mine.  Pretty much the nature of this forum.  Just being honest.

Unless your Christianity is just some fake construct for your online debates, I would suggest against using it to score partisan points like you did here. Again, at best it cheapens your faith, at worst it makes other people question their faith, because they see people like you who come across as disingenuous or false and it undermines their own belief.
  

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Re: A challenge to the White Supremacist Trash out there
Reply #19 - Aug 14th, 2019 at 11:26am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Aug 14th, 2019 at 9:04am:
Here's my challenge.  Take your attitudes about diversity, race mixing, whatever the phuck.  Take ALL of those attitudes and visit New York City for a few days.  See the sights.  Visit the Statue of Liberty.  Ride the subways.  Walk the streets.  Enjoy and notice that everybody seems to be from someplace else and it adds to the spice.  Gives this great city it's flavor.  Look at the people and if you get the opportunity, talk to them.  They do talk y'know.  They have opinions.  It's America at it best.  Finest. 

I took my family down for a three day weekend and the kids loved it.  There's so much to see, do and experience.  Interestingly, on either side of the Fox News building, there are food carts operated by people of multiple ethnic groups and faiths.  Eat a hot dog you bought from a Muslim from Sri Lanka and watch for Jimmy Fallon to show up at the NBC Studios.  Grab a hot pastrami sandwich from a Jew from Israel next to him.  Catch an off Broadway show with dancers from India.  A couple of the park rangers at the Statue of Liberty are from Pakistan. 

So, if you White Supremacist trash get out of your basements and see America as we are, maybe, just maybe you'll learn something ABOUT America.

Greg


I've said this a number of times.  I live in an area with high diversity.  I work in a highly diverse career, in terms of race and ethnic origin, if not gender.  And my kids schools are desegregated through busing, which means about half their classmates are latino, a quarter mixed, and a quarter white.

And I'm here to tell you -- the water is fine.  Just dive on in.  We are all just people, working to provide for our kids.  We are all worried about crime.  We all want some version of "fiscal conservatism and social liberalism".  We are all invested in our communities.  We all go to sports games, hang out downtown, watch tv, and wonder about those weird neighbors down the street.  All of us.
  

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