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Reply #70 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 11:33am
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crepe05 wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 11:16am:
But his point is that this isn't the first 5 hurricane (or whatever it was at landing in the Bahamas).  Now you're trying to deny that.  We have had other 5 hurricanes.

So far, we, the people, cannot control the weather or the climate.  We, the people, includes the scientists.   

The city in which I live outside of Baton Rouge had its first big flooding issue in 2016.  We actually are in (or used to be in) a no flood zone.  After all was said and done the flood was  caused by not cleaning out the draining ditches etc., so when we got a humongous amount of rain the draining ditches couldn't handle it and the small creeks etc  flooded in the non flood zone.  We've seen a lot of draining ditch work being done by the city in the last 2-3 years.  IOW, this pretty much was a man made flood and not a something to prove global warming just because it had never happened before.


I can't wait until your family down there loses untold amounts of money because of increased flooding. It'll warm the cockles of my heart.  Smiley
  

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Reply #71 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 11:37am
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crepe05 wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 11:16am:
But his point is that this isn't the first 5 hurricane (or whatever it was at landing in the Bahamas).  Now you're trying to deny that.  We have had other 5 hurricanes.


Quote me saying this is the first Cat 5 hurricane. I'll wait.
  

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Reply #72 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 11:38am
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crepe05 wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 11:16am:
So far, we, the people, cannot control the weather or the climate.  We, the people, includes the scientists.   

That's a nice strawman you've got there. Do you imagine someone saying we do control the weather?

What kind of nonsense is this?
  

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Reply #73 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 11:40am
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Buddy_Love wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 11:31am:
The US Military has declared climate change a serious threat to national security for a reason.

The government also has 22 trillion dollars of debt, not a good record of sound judgement.
  

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Reply #74 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 11:45am
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Fiddler wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 11:13am:
This is not a "theory" any more so than boiling a pot of water is a theory   .. .

Having doubts is fine.. It's part of the scientific method ..  My question to you at this point is "Why will you not even LOOK at the science?"


Of course, global warming is a theory, just like all of the other fads that you climate leftists grab onto.  I've already proven that there was a global cooling consensus in the 1970s.  I lived through the left's chlorofluorocarbon crusade, where spray paint and hair spray was going to kill us all! Some studies even conflate ozone depletion and global warming, even though many others say there is no link :

https://phys.org/news/2013-05-global-chlorofluorocarbons-carbon-dioxide.html

These global warming/climate change zealots demand conformity to the latest craze, yet can't seem to pick just one.

Once again, global warming fanatics are like Chicken Little.  Every decade, they tell us that the sky is falling and every decade they are wrong.

It can't be "settled" science if it keeps changing.  The only constant with these people is "GIVE US TONS OF MONEY OR WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!"

  

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Reply #75 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 11:50am
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PaleoCon wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 11:45am:
Of course, global warming is a theory, just like all of the other fads that you climate leftists grab onto.  I've already proven that there was a global cooling consensus in the 1970s.  I lived through the left's chlorofluorocarbon crusade, where spray paint and hair spray was going to kill us all! Some studies even conflate ozone depletion and global warming, even though many others say there is no link :

https://phys.org/news/2013-05-global-chlorofluorocarbons-carbon-dioxide.html

These global warming/climate change zealots demand conformity to the latest craze, yet can't seem to pick just one.

Once again, global warming fanatics are like Chicken Little.  Every decade, they tell us that the sky is falling and every decade they are wrong.

It can't be "settled" science if it keeps changing.  The only constant with these people is "GIVE US TONS OF MONEY OR WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!"


What is amazing is they vilify Big Oil for the money they pour into research and yet not one peep for the biggest contributors to the research industry, government.  Oh, and government owns most of the oil fields n the world.  Few of them are privately owned outside of the US.  The question that they will not ask, and I do not know why, is who will profit from the carbon credit market they are so desperately wanting to implement.  Who is going to come out insanely wealthy with this scam?
  

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Reply #76 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 11:55am
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Seawolf wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 11:40am:
The government also has 22 trillion dollars of debt, not a good record of sound judgement.


Excellent! Then I know I can get you onboard with slashing the military budget in half. I knew I could count on you, Seawolf!
  

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Reply #77 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 12:05pm
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Buddy_Love wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 11:55am:
Excellent! Then I know I can get you onboard with slashing the military budget in half. I knew I could count on you, Seawolf!

Absolutely, if we also include entitlements that were never authorized under our Constitution.  And, dissolving government agencies that are either not authorized or redundant (FBI, ATF, Homeland Security...).  I could envision trillions of dollars saved if we get back to minimal government involvement in our private lives.
  

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Reply #78 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 1:59pm
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Seawolf wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 11:06am:
Before we make life harder for our poor and burden them with expensive energy...


First, it's not expensive energy.  Renewables beat coal already.  Factor in pollution effects, and they beat oil and gas.  Factor in how much we spend to secure oil commerce, and how much oil money goes to support our geopolitical enemies, and they beat it by far.

We are subsidizing dirty supply chains to protect a few well-connected equity lords and a raft of international adversaries.  And you keep buying the propaganda they put out to cover their tracks.

You have gone on record as being concerned about leaving enormous public debt to our children.  Don't you want your children to breath clean air, eat clean food, and thrive in a world under proper sustainable stewardship?
  

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Reply #79 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 3:19pm
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forgotten centrist wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 1:59pm:
First, it's not expensive energy.  Renewables beat coal already.  Factor in pollution effects, and they beat oil and gas.  Factor in how much we spend to secure oil commerce, and how much oil money goes to support our geopolitical enemies, and they beat it by far.

We are subsidizing dirty supply chains to protect a few well-connected equity lords and a raft of international adversaries.  And you keep buying the propaganda they put out to cover their tracks.

You have gone on record as being concerned about leaving enormous public debt to our children.  Don't you want your children to breath clean air, eat clean food, and thrive in a world under proper sustainable stewardship?

Are people thriving more or less than 150 years ago before widespread use of hydrocarbons?

Given that, why would I believe that continued use would make things horrible while stopping their use would Make things better?
  

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