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Re: What to do about Afghanistan
Reply #40 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 6:47pm
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Mojo-Jojo wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 5:15pm:
Either go all in, Marshall Plan type stuff, like Limey was libtarding about or GTFO. Anything in-between is not enough to establish peace. We're not committed, as a nation or united nations, to do the Marshall Plan so the only option is declare victory and leave.

In the end it's their state, not ours. They'll fight it out and the odds are good a strongman will rule. Still not our fight.



Exactly.


Fannying about is costing blood and treasure and achieving nothing.

Well... lots of political careers, huge financial bonanzas for military kit manufacturers, some great novels and movies down the line as current traumatised veterans engage with their experiences, other than that nothing.
  

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Re: What to do about Afghanistan
Reply #41 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:39pm
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Demos wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 3:22pm:
Sure, but not sure chaos is really what you want either, since that allows groups like ISIS, etc. to come in and set up shop (which they've done in Afghanistan). Ultimately, we want/need a stable government in Afghanistan. If that's the Taliban, frankly, so be it; their interests are - and have been - limited to that country. 



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THE US ATTACKS THEM AND THEY WILL TAKE OVER.


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Re: What to do about Afghanistan
Reply #42 - Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:43pm
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Limey. wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 4:11pm:
Education.

If the primitive mediæval cavemen had some exposure to the 20th Century, let alone the 21st, support for the bizarre Puritan dicķheads would wither in a generation.

The vile Chinese are trying a Fascist version of this against their Uigar minority right now. That won't work because it's creating hatred and martyrs.



What are you talking about???

The persecution of the Uigars (another example of the miracles of "diversity" by the way) is NOTHING remotely comparable to the al Qaeda butchers drawn from many foreign muslim lands.
  
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Re: What to do about Afghanistan
Reply #43 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 10:13am
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patrick2 wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:39pm:
RIIIIIIGHT - ANOTHER LIB REALITY REVERSAL!!! 

THE US LEAVES AND THE IFS WON'T TAKE OVER,

THE US ATTACKS THEM AND THEY WILL TAKE OVER.

What are you babbling about?

You want stability in Afghanistan. Instability is what has allowed AQ and ISIS to get into the country in the first place. If that stability can be achieved with Taliban rule, then so be it. Make the Taliban understand - and I'm pretty sure they already do - that allowing any terrorist groups a safe haven would be result in a military response. Furthermore, it seems unlikely the Taliban would want to share power with ISIS or give up any territory to them.
  
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Re: What to do about Afghanistan
Reply #44 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 11:17am
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We can't bomb em back to the stone age because they're already there.
  

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Re: What to do about Afghanistan
Reply #45 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 1:37pm
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robth wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 11:17am:
We can't bomb em back to the stone age because they're already there.



Funny and true, but what we have to do is keep them from taking over the state.

Right now, they're limited to what terror they can launch from hideouts in mountains and caves.  When they take over a whole country, even a place like Afghanistan, their capabilities and resources expand a thousand-fold.  Then they will launch vastly expanded assaults world-wide including at the U.S.

The above is just ignored by the libs, and if the US does another Obamaesque cut-and-run as in Iraq, the consequences will be similar but much more severe.
  
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Re: What to do about Afghanistan
Reply #46 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 3:56pm
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patrick2 wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 8:43pm:
What are you talking about???

The persecution of the Uigars (another example of the miracles of "diversity" by the way) is NOTHING remotely comparable to the al Qaeda butchers drawn from many foreign muslim lands.



Put the bottle down before it's empty, Patrick.

I'm equating the idea of education as a way of diminishing unwanted ideas. On tbe one hand, genuine, honest education with the stated aim of changing mindsets to a more Liberal (in the old fashioned sense) state. On the other, as an example of what not to do, the repellent Chinese horror against the Uigars.
  

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