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Re: Not trusting Trump, US extracted top spy from inside Russia in 2017
Reply #20 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 6:05pm
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The Central Intelligence Agency on Monday evening slammed what it called CNN's "misguided" and "simply false" reporting, after the cable channel's chief national security correspondent authored a hole-filled piece claiming that the CIA had pulled a high-level spy out of Russia because President Trump had "repeatedly mishandled classified intelligence and could contribute to exposing the covert source as a spy."

The extraordinary CIA rebuke came as The New York Times published a bombshell piece late in the evening, which largely contradicted CNN's reporting. According to the Times, CIA officials "made the arduous decision in late 2016 to offer to extract the source from Russia" — weeks before Trump even took office.

Concerns about media reporting on Russian election interference drove the decision, according to the Times, which described the source as "the American government’s best insight into the thinking of and orders” from Russian President Vladimir Putin.

"Former intelligence officials said there was no public evidence that Mr. Trump directly endangered the source, and other current American officials insisted that media scrutiny of the agency’s sources alone was the impetus for the extraction," the Times wrote.

The purported spy refused the 2016 offer of extraction, the Times reported, citing family concerns. But the CIA "pressed again months later after more media inquiries" threatened the source, and he relented, according to the paper.

The whirlwind developments continued into the night on Monday, when NBC News exclusively reported that a possible Russia spy was now living under apparent U.S. protection, using his true identity, in Washington, D.C. — and that his life could be in danger. Sources told NBC News that the Russian living in Washington was the same individual who was referenced in the reporting by CNN and the Times, and NBC said he "fits the profile of someone who may have had access to information about Putin’s activities."

An NBC reporter who knocked at the Russian's door was confronted by unidentified men in an SUV, presumed to be security personnel, within minutes. Speculation about the purported spy's identity, using publicly available records, quickly circulated on social media after NBC News' report revealed identifiable details about his living situation. Russian officials reportedly said the man at the center of those reports worked in the presidential administration but was fired and did not have direct access to Putin.

"CNN's narrative that the Central Intelligence Agency makes life-or-death decisions based on anything other than objective analysis and sound collection is simply false," CIA Director for Public Affairs Brittany Bramell said in the agency's statement.

Bramwell continued: "Misguided speculation that the President's handling of our nation's most sensitive intelligence — which he has access to each and every day — drove an alleged exfiltration operation is inaccurate."

According to the report by CNN chief national correspondent and former Obama administration official Jim Sciutto, the decision to carry out the extraction "occurred soon after a May 2017 meeting in the Oval Office in which Trump discussed highly classified intelligence with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and then-Russian Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak. The intelligence, concerning ISIS in Syria, had been provided by Israel."

The disclosure "prompted intelligence officials to renew earlier discussions about the potential risk of exposure," CNN reported.

Sciutto later posted on Twitter, after the Times report was published, that the double agent in jeopardy had the "remarkable ability to take photos of presidential documents," as well as "direct access" to Putin.

It was not clear from the CNN piece how exactly Trump's comments in the Oval Office would have further compromised the Russian source.

Numerous other holes quickly surfaced in CNN's reporting. Commentator Aaron Mate pointed out in a Twitter thread that several major news organizations had previously cited a high-level official in the Russian government as a source -- suggesting that the intelligence community itself, not Trump, had compromised the spy.

For example, The Washington Post reported in June 2017 of "'sourcing deep inside the Russian government' -- so deep that it purportedly 'captured Putin’s specific instructions' to launch a pro-Trump influence campaign," Mate noted.

And the Times reported in August 2018 of "anonymous intel officials complaining that their 'vital Kremlin informants have largely gone silent.'" But "if these Kremlin informants are so vital, why are US intel officials talking about them?" Mate asked.

The source resurfaced in May 2019, when the Times "reported on intel fears of this source being exposed."

"Again, the irony is lost that it's the ones who are complaining who are the ones revealing this supposed source," Mate wrote. "So there's a pattern here of intel leaks in order to: create a false link between Trump-Russia; to reveal supposed high-level Russian sources that advance the Russiagate narrative & then falsely blame Trump for these sources' supposed vulnerability."


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cia-slams-faulty-cnn-narrative-slams-misguided-...

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Re: Not trusting Trump, US extracted top spy from inside Russia in 2017
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Limey. wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 5:50pm:
That reminds me... any idea which parts of London are no go areas because Muslims?




All of it aside from Essex. The Jihaders just don't feel safe in Essex.
  

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Re: Not trusting Trump, US extracted top spy from inside Russia in 2017
Reply #22 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 6:40pm
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Michael and Jello wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 6:05pm:


Not quite.  NOW we know where the info for the FISA warrant came from that started the Russia investigation.  It wasn't the Steele Dossier.

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Re: Not trusting Trump, US extracted top spy from inside Russia in 2017
Reply #23 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 7:19pm
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Michael and Jello wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 6:32pm:
All of it aside from Essex. The Jihaders just don't feel safe in Essex.



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Re: Not trusting Trump, US extracted top spy from inside Russia in 2017
Reply #24 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 7:22pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 6:40pm:
Not quite.  NOW we know where the info for the FISA warrant came from that started the Russia investigation.  It wasn't the Steele Dossier.

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Reply #25 - Sep 12th, 2019 at 1:39am
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Anything new from this "bombshell"?
  

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Re: Not trusting Trump, US extracted top spy from inside Russia in 2017
Reply #26 - Sep 12th, 2019 at 2:08am
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Michael and Jello wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 5:53pm:
Yep, the other shoe always drops.


Yep, another CNN/mainstream media "bombshell" implodes.

If other world leaders and agencies are not certain that Trump and the US cannot be trusted, I submit that it is because of the false narratives that the mainstream media and the leftists spew daily that undermines his efforts to put America first and foremost.

They are indeed a loathsome and despicable bunch who strive to diminish America, the law, and our personal freedoms. They are an existential threat to making Americans great.

  
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Re: Not trusting Trump, US extracted top spy from inside Russia in 2017
Reply #27 - Sep 12th, 2019 at 8:24am
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What's going on in our news agenciesd?  I remember in "the good old days" printing information, known or unknown, regarding any of our intel agents would have been considered treasonous or dang near close to it.   It also could be a death sentence for the suspected intel person and his family, from the other side.

The leftist socialist dem party hates President Trump more than they love our nation.  What the heck has gotten in to them?  If you loved hil's so much, why didn't you show her off to the middle of the nation voters?   We may not be elitists but we do have the right to vote and we took advantage of it. 

We had to live with the leftist, lead from behind, red lines that meant nothing, strutting, smiling his 'the joke's on you' smile, 'we don't need no stinkin' oil', shipper of the manufacturing industry out of our nation,  President.   It was difficult, but we managed.  You can do it, too.  It's only for a little over five years.   Grin 

At least President Trump is on the side of our nation.
  
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Re: Not trusting Trump, US extracted top spy from inside Russia in 2017
Reply #28 - Sep 12th, 2019 at 8:34am
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crepe05 wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 8:24am:
What's going on in our news agenciesd?  I remember in "the good old days" printing information, known or unknown, regarding any of our intel agents would have been considered treasonous or dang near close to it.   It also could be a death sentence for the suspected intel person and his family, from the other side.

The leftist socialist dem party hates President Trump more than they love our nation.  What the heck has gotten in to them?  If you loved hil's so much, why didn't you show her off to the middle of the nation voters?   We may not be elitists but we do have the right to vote and we took advantage of it. 

We had to live with the leftist, lead from behind, red lines that meant nothing, strutting, smiling his 'the joke's on you' smile, 'we don't need no stinkin' oil', shipper of the manufacturing industry out of our nation,  President.   It was difficult, but we managed.  You can do it, too.  It's only for a little over five years.   Grin 

At least President Trump is on the side of our nation.

Well said.  How many stories have our friends on the other side jumped on that have turned up false now?
  

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Re: Not trusting Trump, US extracted top spy from inside Russia in 2017
Reply #29 - Sep 12th, 2019 at 8:43am
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Seawolf wrote on Sep 12th, 2019 at 8:34am:
Well said.  How many stories have our friends on the other side jumped on that have turned up false now?




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