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Upgrades Needed For Sustained F-22 Operations During A Crisis In Europe Axed For Wall
Sep 10th, 2019 at 10:44am
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The Pentagon says it will defer building various facilities to support rotating deployments of F-22 Raptors to Germany as part of a larger reallocation of military funds to support wall construction along the United States' southwestern border with Mexico. Delaying the planned work, which included setting up a dedicated repair center that would be able to maintain the composite structures, exotic coatings, and other elements of the stealth fighter's sensitive radar-absorbing skin, could have significant impacts on the Air Force's ability to operate these jets for sustained periods in the region during a crisis.

On Sept. 4, 2019, the U.S. military announced it would redirect a total of $3.6 billion in funding to wall construction. All of these funds came from spending that Congress had approved between Fiscal Years 2017 and 2019 to support 127 individual military construction projects within the United States and elsewhere around the world, including the F-22-related work at Spangdahlem Air Base. The installation currently hosts a squadron of USAF Block 50 F-16CJ/DJ Vipers.

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To be clear, as far as we know, America's most capable air-superiority fighter – an aircraft designed to take on Russia  – cannot sustain forward operations in mainland Europe during a crisis without these upgrades.


https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29698/upgrades-needed-for-sustained-f-22-o...

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Re: Upgrades Needed For Sustained F-22 Operations During A Crisis In Europe Axed For Wall
Reply #1 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 10:46am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 10:44am:

Explain why Congress just doesn't simply give him the money he is asking for rather then your open ended drama?  Most Americans want border enforcement, few people want open borders.
  

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Re: Upgrades Needed For Sustained F-22 Operations During A Crisis In Europe Axed For Wall
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Seawolf wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 10:46am:
Explain why Congress just doesn't simply give him the money he is asking for rather then your open ended drama?  Most Americans want border enforcement, few people want open borders.


What do you mean "just simply give him the money"?  That's the job of Congress.  To decide WHAT programs are to be funded and what programs are NOT to be funded.  That's in the Constitution.  Did you forget?  Congress decides that.  In your world, if the President doesn't get what he wants from Congress, he can simply declare an emergency and move money where ever he wants?  So he takes money from military readiness for his bogus wall.  How is that keeping you safer?

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Re: Upgrades Needed For Sustained F-22 Operations During A Crisis In Europe Axed For Wall
Reply #3 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 11:17am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 11:12am:
What do you mean "just simply give him the money"?  That's the job of Congress.  To decide WHAT programs are to be funded and what programs are NOT to be funded.  That's in the Constitution.  Did you forget?  Congress decides that.  In your world, if the President doesn't get what he wants from Congress, he can simply declare an emergency and move money where ever he wants?  So he takes money from military readiness for his bogus wall.  How is that keeping you safer?

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Sucks it up buttercup. Ask Iran to give it back.
  
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Czarcasm wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 11:17am:
Sucks it up buttercup. Ask Iran to give it back.


So Abe, can I call you Abe?  You're back?

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Re: Upgrades Needed For Sustained F-22 Operations During A Crisis In Europe Axed For Wall
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Greg55_99 wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 11:12am:
What do you mean "just simply give him the money"?  That's the job of Congress.  To decide WHAT programs are to be funded and what programs are NOT to be funded.  That's in the Constitution.  Did you forget?  Congress decides that.  In your world, if the President doesn't get what he wants from Congress, he can simply declare an emergency and move money where ever he wants?  So he takes money from military readiness for his bogus wall.  How is that keeping you safer?

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He was elected PRIMARILY based on that promise.  So the people want this.  Hey, in the end he gets it and Congress will fund it in a round about way by providing those funds from where he pulled it.   Wink
  

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Greg55_99 wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 11:18am:
So Abe, can I call you Abe?  You're back?

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Why Abe? My honesty?  But if it makes you happy you can call me anything that you like. Just not late for dinner.
  
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Seawolf wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 11:20am:
He was elected PRIMARILY based on that promise.  So the people want this.  Hey, in the end he gets it and Congress will fund it in a round about way by providing those funds from where he pulled it.   Wink


Oh...  Then if Obama had funded the Affordable Care Act in that manner, you'd have been OK with that.  Yes?

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Re: Upgrades Needed For Sustained F-22 Operations During A Crisis In Europe Axed For Wall
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It's all about priorities. I agree with Trump that protecting our own borders is a higher priority than protecting the borders of Europe.
  

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Re: Upgrades Needed For Sustained F-22 Operations During A Crisis In Europe Axed For Wall
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Greg55_99 wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 11:23am:
Oh...  Then if Obama had funded the Affordable Care Act in that manner, you'd have been OK with that.  Yes?

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Thanks for bringing that up, maybe this is the same as cramming a bill through in the middle of the night.  Get over it, the wall is going up as we speak, crying over spilt milk has no redeeming value.
  

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