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Re: BREAKING: Trump fires John Bolton via Twitter!
Reply #50 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 2:51pm
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The D-Man wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 1:20pm:
I think it would be OK to include all conflicts, with minor ones having fewer casualties and so contributing less to the total.

Well, that's where we start then. There should casualty stats for each of these some where.
  
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Re: BREAKING: Trump fires John Bolton via Twitter!
Reply #51 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 3:42pm
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Demos wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 2:51pm:
Well, that's where we start then. There should casualty stats for each of these some where.


Here are a couple of graphs going back to the 1940s, but nothing past 2015.





The second one seems to show the Syrian conflict at the end, but I don't see a blip for the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars. That at least answers the question of whether peace increased or decreased under Obama, as it seems to have increased, at least for a while.

It would appear that if we can say that the casualties over the past three years have been lower than in 2005, then they were also the lowest since the 1940s.
  

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Reply #52 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 4:07pm
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it would appear that Trump has not yet been able to stem the dramatic increase in global violence started while Obama was president and we must wait for his second term to fulfill his promise of bringing about world peace. What we must not do, however, is allow the man who was vice president during the dramatic increase in world violence that started in 2012 to become president and reignite these global conflicts.





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Re: BREAKING: Trump fires John Bolton!
Reply #53 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 4:12pm
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Good news!!
  

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Reply #54 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 4:19pm
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Good.

Hopefully Pompeo is next.
  

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Re: BREAKING: Trump fires John Bolton!
Reply #56 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 4:41pm
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The rise in violence in the last decade is largely due to the mess that Dubya left behind in the Middle East. There was no Al Qaeda in Iraq before we invaded. And remember, Dubya agreed to withdraw our forces there, and chaos ensued when his plan was put into action. As for Afghanistan, that is proverbially the graveyard of Empires. The Ottomans Greeks tried and failed. The British tried and failed. The Russians tried and failed, that time with Reagan aiding and abetting those who would eventually turn and attack us on 9/11. Our foreign policy has been guided by one thing: not peace, but corporate American profits. It has not been a great approach, but I suppose it's the default for our system.

Donny shows no sign of altering that system.
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Re: BREAKING: Trump fires John Bolton!
Reply #57 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 4:43pm
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John Bolton didn't work out. Maybe try something a little different.

  

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Re: BREAKING: Trump fires John Bolton!
Reply #58 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 4:50pm
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Ulysses wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 4:41pm:
As for Afghanistan, that is proverbially the graveyard of Empires. The Ottomans tried and failed. The British tried and failed. The Russians tried and failed, that time with Reagan aiding and abetting those who would eventually turn and attack us on 9/11.

The Ottoman Empire?
  
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Re: BREAKING: Trump fires John Bolton!
Reply #59 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 5:06pm
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Lomelis wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 4:19pm:
Good.

Hopefully Pompeo is next.


This.

As much as I can't stand Trump, he's no hawk. Pompeo on the other hand? He's a Christian warrior. :/
  

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