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Reply #10 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 7:38pm
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Maestro wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 7:33pm:
I wouldn't know. I've never read Atwood's work.

I have read several of King's, though I don't any more. I always liked his short stories better.

Actually, the audio version of his "On Writing" is pretty good. I recommend that.

At any rate, I'm fairly sure, especially after he dies, that his works will eventually be regarded as classics compared to whatever the current novelists are producing at that future date.


He has some good short stories. I got Night Shift when I was eleven, and some of the stories in there, like "Lawnmower Man," "Quitters Inc.," "The Children of the Corn," and "The Bogeyman," are top-notch as far as stories go, really unforgettable, though the writing falls short of something like Edgar Allan Poe, but it was a different era with a different vernacular.
  

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Reply #11 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 7:58pm
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The D-Man wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 7:38pm:
He has some good short stories. I got Night Shift when I was eleven, and some of the stories in there, like "Lawnmower Man," "Quitters Inc.," "The Children of the Corn," and "The Bogeyman," are top-notch as far as stories go, really unforgettable, though the writing falls short of something like Edgar Allan Poe, but it was a different era with a different vernacular.


Although I've read several of his short stories, "Bogeyman" was the one on my mind when I made that post.

"Quitters, Inc." is also really good.
  

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Reply #12 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 8:12pm
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Limey. wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 5:42pm:
Well.I had "the Testaments" pre-ordered on Kindle. It pinged on my phone at midnight (it's 2241 here now) and i just finished it. What a great book. Worthy sequel to the excellent Handmaid's Tale. Anyone else got it lined up?


Limey, what draws you to these Atwood books? I've not read them so I can't comment on the readability of her narrative. But, the idea of a modern theocracy seems rather nonsensical considering that the most brutal, tyrannical regimes of the last 100 years were hostility toward Christianity.

I've seen some of the TV adaptation and like some of its elements, especially Yvonne Strahovski as Serena Joy.

BTW,  "The Stand" by King is still a favorite. As far as dystopian fiction, I'll reread Orwell and Huxley instead.
  

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Reply #13 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 8:39pm
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Maestro wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 7:33pm:
I wouldn't know. I've never read Atwood's work.

I have read several of King's, though I don't read them any more. I always liked his short stories better anyway. I think the writing is a lot tighter. That isn't to say I didn't enjoy some of his novels and I'm hardly a literary snob. Read what you like and don't worry about what people say about it is my motto.

Actually, the audio version of King's "On Writing" is pretty good too. I recommend that.

At any rate, I'm fairly sure, especially after he dies, that his works will eventually be regarded as classics compared to whatever the current novelists are producing at that future date.

I used to read King as well.  As I got older, I lost my taste for horror.  But I do agree that his novels will be considered classics
  

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Reply #14 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 9:56pm
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Limey. wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 5:42pm:
Well.


I had "the Testaments" pre-ordered on Kindle.

It pinged on my phone at midnight (it's 2241 here now) and i just finished it.

What a great book. Worthy sequel to the excellent Handmaid's Tale.


Anyone else got it lined up?


Well I just went to a book club at Barnes & Noble for the first time tonight and hung out with a bunch of old ladies, and they're reading The Testaments next and I won a drawing for a free copy, so it looks like I do have it lined up after all!
  

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Reply #15 - Sep 10th, 2019 at 11:45pm
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Limey. wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 5:42pm:
Well.


I had "the Testaments" pre-ordered on Kindle.

It pinged on my phone at midnight (it's 2241 here now) and i just finished it.

What a great book. Worthy sequel to the excellent Handmaid's Tale.


Anyone else got it lined up?


National Public Radio (NPR) did an interview of the author today.

She said that when she wrote it, in the mid 80s, we were moving away from that type of dystopian future, but that under Trump, we're moving towards it. That is why it is so popular right now.

Far Right Conservatives. I'm lookin' at you.
  
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Reply #16 - Sep 11th, 2019 at 12:41am
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Freon_Bale wrote on Sep 10th, 2019 at 11:45pm:
National Public Radio (NPR) did an interview of the author today.

She said that when she wrote it, in the mid 80s, we were moving away from that type of dystopian future, but that under Trump, we're moving towards it. That is why it is so popular right now.

Far Right Conservatives. I'm lookin' at you.


My memory is that in The Handmaid's Tale, women are forced to have sex and give birth to the offspring. I don't think we are moving toward a situation where women are being forced to have sex. Rather, we are on the cusp of moving away from a situation where unborn people (male and female) are being forced to die by abortion.

That is, the book is about the violation of people's bodily integrity and how bad it is, and yet it is being used by liberals as an argument in support of the violation of unborn people's bodily integrity in the form of abortion. Orwell referred to that as "doublethink" in Nineteen Eighty-Four.
  

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Reply #17 - Sep 11th, 2019 at 9:29am
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The D-Man wrote on Sep 11th, 2019 at 12:41am:
My memory is that in The Handmaid's Tale, women are forced to have sex and give birth to the offspring. I don't think we are moving toward a situation where women are being forced to have sex. Rather, we are on the cusp of moving away from a situation where unborn people (male and female) are being forced to die by abortion.

That is, the book is about the violation of people's bodily integrity and how bad it is, and yet it is being used by liberals as an argument in support of the violation of unborn people's bodily integrity in the form of abortion. Orwell referred to that as "doublethink" in Nineteen Eighty-Four.


Remarkable that you could bring up 'doublethink', as if it defends your support of Trump. Eric Blair was pointing out that those who use it,  are hypocrites, the only consistent position of the far Right.

Abortion is a perfect example. You will defend a few cells in a woman's body that might become another human, but once that human is born, you will do nothing to support it. So your conscious tells you that an unborn life is beautiful, innocent, and valuable, but once born, that same life needs to fend for itself.

That is absolutely doublethink. Blair was talking about you.
  
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Reply #18 - Sep 11th, 2019 at 11:02am
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Freon_Bale wrote on Sep 11th, 2019 at 9:29am:
Remarkable that you could bring up 'doublethink', as if it defends your support of Trump. Eric Blair was pointing out that those who use it,  are hypocrites, the only consistent position of the far Right.

Abortion is a perfect example. You will defend a few cells in a woman's body that might become another human, but once that human is born, you will do nothing to support it. So your conscious tells you that an unborn life is beautiful, innocent, and valuable, but once born, that same life needs to fend for itself.

That is absolutely doublethink. Blair was talking about you.


FB, that's not correct.  First, those "few cells" have their own distinctive heartbeat after 16 days.  Secondly, show us where we do not equally protect and defend the lives of children after they are born.

When you say "support", we know what you mean: "nanny state, welfare, cradle to grave control".  We don't believe the government should be in the business of parenting or handouts to achieve some mandated family outcome.

But, how in the world can it be better to kill a child only because the government won't babysit?



  

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Reply #19 - Sep 11th, 2019 at 11:10am
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PaleoCon wrote on Sep 11th, 2019 at 11:02am:
FB, that's not correct.  First, those "few cells" have their own distinctive heartbeat after 16 days.  Secondly, show us where we do not equally protect and defend the lives of children after they are born.

When you say "support", we know what you mean: "nanny state, welfare, cradle to grave control".  We don't believe the government should be in the business of parenting or handouts to achieve some mandated family outcome.

But, how in the world can it be better to kill a child only because the government won't babysit?





As someone who has done animal research, the heartbeat means very little to me. That may be 'the spark of life' to you, but it's just a muscle beating to me. There is no intelligence in it, it is just a pump.

It's not a child. Not a baby. It is the potential to become both, but when we abort it, it's just a bunch of cells. Just like when you masturbate, you kill all those potential humans. But that's ok, right?

And when I say support, I mean that if you force a woman to have a baby, and she can't support that child, then who does? It wouldn't be a financial problem if you didn't force the woman to give birth, but that's what you want, EXACTLY LIKE IN THE HANDMAIDENS TALE. You have not only denied a woman's right use her body as she chooses, which is bad enough, but you also bring an unwanted life into our society, with no means to pay for it. And all so you can feel good. Selfish. Irresponsible. Ignorant. Hypocrite.
  
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