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Reply #10 - Oct 9th, 2019 at 9:25am
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Bert #49 wrote on Oct 9th, 2019 at 12:25am:
My argument is none of the 2020 candidates have proposed anything that will grow the economy.


Medicare for All
College debt forgiveness
Free college tuition
Healthcare for illegal immigrants
Medical debt forgiveness
Universal basic income

These things cost money and all of it is paid for by taxes. We need a robust economy that continues to grow in order to pay for all this and more, None of them have proposed anything that will grow the economy.


Considering how little Trump has been able to accomplish using Congress, do you REALLY think a Dem president would get all that done? You must have incredible confidence in the Dems and in Congress.

But what is really telling to me, is not that you fear these proposals, but that you do not understand them at all. Take any one of them, and they are strategies to mitigate a problem, yet all you see is the strategy, and not the problem. Medicare for all is a strategy to help solve our unreasonable healthcare cost problem. The Republicans have done NOTHING to deal with this problem. College debt forgiveness is a strategy to deal with the need to have a large educated working force (which I would consider both a national defense strategy as well as a vehicle to the middle class), while keeping costs reasonable. Republicans have done NOTHING to deal with this problem.

And I could go on.

You are too focused on the strategies, which means you either don't see a problem, or you only care about your personal financial situation, and not that of our entire country.

Also, a 'growing' economy is relative. How much growth? How fast? What is considered healthy? Obama, a Dem, left us with a great economy that Trump is riding the coat tales of. And he did it while implementing a healthcare strategy that Repubs all said would be doom and gloom. It wasn't. It isn't. They were wrong, AND our economy grew.

So what historical precedent are you using to say the Dems strategies would all inhibit the economy?
  
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Reply #11 - Oct 9th, 2019 at 9:55am
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Freon_Bale wrote on Oct 9th, 2019 at 9:25am:
Considering how little Trump has been able to accomplish using Congress, do you REALLY think a Dem president would get all that done? You must have incredible confidence in the Dems and in Congress.

But what is really telling to me, is not that you fear these proposals, but that you do not understand them at all. Take any one of them, and they are strategies to mitigate a problem, yet all you see is the strategy, and not the problem. Medicare for all is a strategy to help solve our unreasonable healthcare cost problem. The Republicans have done NOTHING to deal with this problem. College debt forgiveness is a strategy to deal with the need to have a large educated working force (which I would consider both a national defense strategy as well as a vehicle to the middle class), while keeping costs reasonable. Republicans have done NOTHING to deal with this problem.

And I could go on.

You are too focused on the strategies, which means you either don't see a problem, or you only care about your personal financial situation, and not that of our entire country.

Also, a 'growing' economy is relative. How much growth? How fast? What is considered healthy? Obama, a Dem, left us with a great economy that Trump is riding the coat tales of. And he did it while implementing a healthcare strategy that Repubs all said would be doom and gloom. It wasn't. It isn't. They were wrong, AND our economy grew.

So what historical precedent are you using to say the Dems strategies would all inhibit the economy?


freon his first year alone he signed 117 new bills into law, all blls that obviously passed thru congress - huge working with congress on bipartisan bills...including the massive tax overhaul....
  
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Reply #12 - Oct 9th, 2019 at 10:32am
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petep wrote on Oct 9th, 2019 at 9:55am:
freon his first year alone he signed 117 new bills into law, all blls that obviously passed thru congress - huge working with congress on bipartisan bills...including the massive tax overhaul....


I think the data speaks for itself.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/statistics

He's a lame duck. And the bills he has passed are also kinda lame.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse?congress=116&status=28,29,32,33

Or do you consider the H.R. 3245: Restore the Harmony Way Bridge Act to be important? I don't.
  
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Reply #13 - Oct 9th, 2019 at 3:16pm
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Freon_Bale wrote on Oct 9th, 2019 at 9:25am:
Considering how little Trump has been able to accomplish using Congress, do you REALLY think a Dem president would get all that done? You must have incredible confidence in the Dems and in Congress.

But what is really telling to me, is not that you fear these proposals, but that you do not understand them at all. Take any one of them, and they are strategies to mitigate a problem, yet all you see is the strategy, and not the problem. Medicare for all is a strategy to help solve our unreasonable healthcare cost problem. The Republicans have done NOTHING to deal with this problem. College debt forgiveness is a strategy to deal with the need to have a large educated working force (which I would consider both a national defense strategy as well as a vehicle to the middle class), while keeping costs reasonable. Republicans have done NOTHING to deal with this problem.

And I could go on.

You are too focused on the strategies, which means you either don't see a problem, or you only care about your personal financial situation, and not that of our entire country.

Also, a 'growing' economy is relative. How much growth? How fast? What is considered healthy? Obama, a Dem, left us with a great economy that Trump is riding the coat tales of. And he did it while implementing a healthcare strategy that Repubs all said would be doom and gloom. It wasn't. It isn't. They were wrong, AND our economy grew.

So what historical precedent are you using to say the Dems strategies would all inhibit the economy?


LOL

We have never had anyone on this forum, ever, who spouts as much hot air as you. Your response to every post is to tell that poster (wrongly) what they are thinking. Less lecturing, more comprehending.
  

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Reply #14 - Oct 9th, 2019 at 3:31pm
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Bert #49 wrote on Oct 9th, 2019 at 3:16pm:
LOL

We have never had anyone on this forum, ever, who spouts as much hot air as you. Your response to every post is to tell that poster (wrongly) what they are thinking. Less lecturing, more comprehending.


I hear you. If I hear one more time how successful California is due to their diversity blah blah

I posted the facts and data on per capita gdp by State and also diversity stats and I never heard from him again.
  
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Reply #15 - Oct 9th, 2019 at 3:42pm
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The thinking of the Democrats is they can CHANGE the result of the 2016 election.  They HOPE to either remove this President through Impeachment or so weaken him by dragging him through the mud, that they BELIEVE that this is a winning strategy!

The American people aren't stupid!  This is a rigged game and just another elaborate Hoax!  The President will will reelection and the Democrats will lose the House in 2020!
  

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Reply #16 - Oct 9th, 2019 at 3:43pm
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petep wrote on Oct 9th, 2019 at 3:31pm:
I hear you. If I hear one more time how successful California is due to their diversity blah blah

I posted the facts and data on per capita gdp by State and also diversity stats and I never heard from him again.



Sooooooo That is why California is....
The utility said Wednesday it will gradually turn off electricity to nearly 800,000 customers to prevent its equipment from starting wildfires during hot, windy weather.

It says a second group of about 234,000 customers will lose power starting at noon.

The utility says it’s considering turning off power to another 42,000 customers in areas it serves near Southern California. It says it will determine a time and the specific locations later Wednesday.  There going to be a lot of unhappy Dem's voters.   Grin
  

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Reply #17 - Oct 9th, 2019 at 3:56pm
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walkstall wrote on Oct 9th, 2019 at 3:43pm:
Sooooooo That is why California is....
The utility said Wednesday it will gradually turn off electricity to nearly 800,000 customers to prevent its equipment from starting wildfires during hot, windy weather.

It says a second group of about 234,000 customers will lose power starting at noon.

The utility says it’s considering turning off power to another 42,000 customers in areas it serves near Southern California. It says it will determine a time and the specific locations later Wednesday.  There going to be a lot of unhappy Dem's voters.   Grin


Sounds like Venezuela.
  

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Reply #18 - Oct 9th, 2019 at 4:28pm
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Cades Cove wrote on Oct 9th, 2019 at 12:13am:
Didn't republicans crash the economy doing just what they're doing now and the democrats had to grow it back?


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Geeze, .. Cades Cove, you really were BRAINWASHED by the filthy liberal socialist democrat party and by their propaganda arm, the liberal news networks!

Democrats do not build jack shit, .. they are destroyers, they are takers, not builders of any damn thing, .. you imbecile!

That's why the leftist demoncrap bastards LOVE taxes and welfare, foodstamps, section 8 housing, and other special pwogwams  Smiley , but, only for select groups mostly, in return for the demoncrap liberal socialist party votes..   Wink

In TRUTH, .. the demoncrap liberal socialist party KNOWS they CANNOT beat Trump in 2020, .. and that IS the REASON why they desire to impeach him, or at least THREATEN to IMPEACH him, because, they WANT to HURT Trump as much as they think they can before 2020!  Cool
  

 CADES COVE IS A LEFTIST WHACKO & IS REALLY DUMB ..

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Reply #19 - Oct 9th, 2019 at 4:39pm
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petep wrote on Oct 9th, 2019 at 3:31pm:
I hear you. If I hear one more time how successful California is due to their diversity blah blah

I posted the facts and data on per capita gdp by State and also diversity stats and I never heard from him again.



Really? I would love to see those numbers. I am 100% sure they will vindicate my statements. Can you link your post? Don't want you to have to find that data again.
  
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