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Trump's Ukraine call was "Perfect", so why not get all the info out there?
Oct 9th, 2019 at 8:26am
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Trump says his Ukraine call was "perfect".
Trump and his supporters say the released summary transcript actually shows nothing wrong.

So why wouldn't you simply get everything out, let your core people testify, and put it behind you? Why drag it out and allow stuff to dribble out, waiting for a very likely slap-down by the courts?

If the call was "perfect" and the summary already released actually shows nothing untoward, then why lock down everything and make it look like a cover-up? Wouldn't releasing it all make the Dems look bad and boost your re-election chances after all the impeachment build-up?

Or is there some real fear of what might come out?
  

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Trump is the monster created by irresponsible right wing rhetoric.  The GOP wanted to ride that wave as long as possible to fire up the base ... not realizing what they'd get when they unleashed the beast. He's the dictator those who find self governance too difficult have been waiting for.
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Re: Trump's Ukraine call was "Perfect", so why not get all the info out there?
Reply #1 - Oct 9th, 2019 at 8:38am
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Vypr wrote on Oct 9th, 2019 at 8:26am:
Trump says his Ukraine call was "perfect".
Trump and his supporters say the released summary transcript actually shows nothing wrong.

So why wouldn't you simply get everything out, let your core people testify, and put it behind you? Why drag it out and allow stuff to dribble out, waiting for a very likely slap-down by the courts?

If the call was "perfect" and the summary already released actually shows nothing untoward, then why lock down everything and make it look like a cover-up? Wouldn't releasing it all make the Dems look bad and boost your re-election chances after all the impeachment build-up?

Or is there some real fear of what might come out?


Why allow them to testify in an openly biased environment?
Put Impeachment to the house vote, giving Republicans the same rights Dems have. Make it a fair and honest hearing, in the open, not behind closed doors.
Why wont the left allow that? Could it be they know they dont have the votes???

  
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Re: Trump's Ukraine call was "Perfect", so why not get all the info out there?
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AmericanMom wrote on Oct 9th, 2019 at 8:38am:
Why allow them to testify in an openly biased environment?
Put Impeachment to the house vote, giving Republicans the same rights Dems have. Make it a fair and honest hearing, in the open, not behind closed doors.
Why wont the left allow that? Could it be they know they dont have the votes???



For a "perfect" call, The Donald is sure trying to get people that have knowledge of it to shut up.

Perfect?

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Re: Trump's Ukraine call was "Perfect", so why not get all the info out there?
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Greg55_99 wrote on Oct 9th, 2019 at 8:40am:
For a "perfect" call, The Donald is sure trying to get people that have knowledge of it to shut up.

Perfect?

Greg



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Re: Trump's Ukraine call was "Perfect", so why not get all the info out there?
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Greg55_99 wrote on Oct 9th, 2019 at 8:40am:
For a "perfect" call, The Donald is sure trying to get people that have knowledge of it to shut up.

Perfect?

Greg


He's just protecting executive privilege in general.
  

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Re: Trump's Ukraine call was "Perfect", so why not get all the info out there?
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AmericanMom wrote on Oct 9th, 2019 at 8:38am:
Why allow them to testify in an openly biased environment?
Put Impeachment to the house vote, giving Republicans the same rights Dems have. Make it a fair and honest hearing, in the open, not behind closed doors.
Why wont the left allow that? Could it be they know they dont have the votes???


No, the facts are the facts. The Republicans get to ask questions as well. Do you think the American people are too stupid to understand? The call was PERFECT. How hard is it to frame that if the people with direct knowledge are allowed to talk about the perfect call? Locking down everything and everyone and squirreling away the full transcript on a higher security server don't exactly build confidence that there's no "there" there. So, again, perfect call, right? Just let everyone talk, provide the requested materials and "stick it to the Dems" with the basic facts.
  

Queshank wrote on Aug 26th, 2015 at 9:29am:
Trump is the monster created by irresponsible right wing rhetoric.  The GOP wanted to ride that wave as long as possible to fire up the base ... not realizing what they'd get when they unleashed the beast. He's the dictator those who find self governance too difficult have been waiting for.
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Re: Trump's Ukraine call was "Perfect", so why not get all the info out there?
Reply #6 - Oct 9th, 2019 at 8:51am
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The D-Man wrote on Oct 9th, 2019 at 8:46am:
He's just protecting executive privilege in general.



Heck......some werent even POTUS and were not "pressed" to disclose what they talked about .. Double standard much??

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“Kerry is full of it, as you know. But, just to put some meat on those bones, during the 2004 election, which he lost, John Kerry openly bragged about soliciting support from foreign leaders against his opponent that year, the incumbent President George W. Bush,” Carlson said.

He then referenced a 2004 quote from Kerry, a Democrat, in The Guardian, in which he said: “I've met foreign leaders who can't go out and say this publicly, but boy they look at you and say, 'you've got to win this, you've got to beat this guy, we need a new policy.' Things like that.”

Kerry was criticized for the remarks at the time.

Carlson then discussed how Kerry allegedly refused to say which leaders made the comments to him at the time, what his response was, whether they pledged to help the candidate, and if he made any promises to them.

“John Kerry said he wasn’t going to be specific because it was his right to keep his conversations with foreign leaders confidential -- that’s absolutely necessary for leadership,” Carlson said.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/john-kerry-foreign-leaders-2004-trump-bush
  
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Re: Trump's Ukraine call was "Perfect", so why not get all the info out there?
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Vypr wrote on Oct 9th, 2019 at 8:48am:
No, the facts are the facts. The Republicans get to ask questions as well. Do you think the American people are too stupid to understand? The call was PERFECT. How hard is it to frame that if the people with direct knowledge are allowed to talk about the perfect call? Locking down everything and everyone and squirreling away the full transcript on a higher security server don't exactly build confidence that there's no "there" there. So, again, perfect call, right? Just let everyone talk, provide the requested materials and "stick it to the Dems" with the basic facts.


Nah, owning the libs by sending them over the impeachment cliff will be much more fun.
  

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Re: Trump's Ukraine call was "Perfect", so why not get all the info out there?
Reply #8 - Oct 9th, 2019 at 8:55am
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The D-Man wrote on Oct 9th, 2019 at 8:46am:
He's just protecting executive privilege in general.

Nonsense D-Man Nazi. Why dig in on a nothingburger "perfect" call where nothing improper was discussed and risk the courts ripping the rug of executive privilege out from under you? Why put the entire Republican Congressional leadership in a shit situation over a call that was "perfect"? Nothing wrong happened on that call so as President, let your people speak to it and make the Dems look stupid.
  

Queshank wrote on Aug 26th, 2015 at 9:29am:
Trump is the monster created by irresponsible right wing rhetoric.  The GOP wanted to ride that wave as long as possible to fire up the base ... not realizing what they'd get when they unleashed the beast. He's the dictator those who find self governance too difficult have been waiting for.
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Re: Trump's Ukraine call was "Perfect", so why not get all the info out there?
Reply #9 - Oct 9th, 2019 at 10:00am
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AmericanMom wrote on Oct 9th, 2019 at 8:51am:
Heck......some werent even POTUS and were not "pressed" to disclose what they talked about .. Double standard much??

Snip::

“Kerry is full of it, as you know. But, just to put some meat on those bones, during the 2004 election, which he lost, John Kerry openly bragged about soliciting support from foreign leaders against his opponent that year, the incumbent President George W. Bush,” Carlson said.

He then referenced a 2004 quote from Kerry, a Democrat, in The Guardian, in which he said: “I've met foreign leaders who can't go out and say this publicly, but boy they look at you and say, 'you've got to win this, you've got to beat this guy, we need a new policy.' Things like that.”

Kerry was criticized for the remarks at the time.

Carlson then discussed how Kerry allegedly refused to say which leaders made the comments to him at the time, what his response was, whether they pledged to help the candidate, and if he made any promises to them.

“John Kerry said he wasn’t going to be specific because it was his right to keep his conversations with foreign leaders confidential -- that’s absolutely necessary for leadership,” Carlson said.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/john-kerry-foreign-leaders-2004-trump-bush

What does that have to do with Trump's actions?
  

Queshank wrote on Aug 26th, 2015 at 9:29am:
Trump is the monster created by irresponsible right wing rhetoric.  The GOP wanted to ride that wave as long as possible to fire up the base ... not realizing what they'd get when they unleashed the beast. He's the dictator those who find self governance too difficult have been waiting for.
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