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Re: An alternative to abortion, I'm just curious how you conservatives would react
Reply #50 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 2:40pm
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Limey. wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 1:10pm:
But she's been swindled/cheated/tricked/assaulted.


What responsibility has she for that, pray tell us?



Are you telling me that after 10,000 years of human civilization, no woman anywhere has any guidance or understanding about how relationships and pregnancies work?

Are you suggesting that women are just too stupid to know that sex results in pregnancies?

If so, that would only be because of the last 50 years of leftist propaganda skewing the frame.

If you have entered into the activity that creates a family, and have made no provisions for the creation of said family, then yes ... you are acting irresponsibly.  Male or female.

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Re: An alternative to abortion, I'm just curious how you conservatives would react
Reply #51 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 2:41pm
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Ulysses wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 1:19pm:
Some years ago at a scientific research station one of the visiting scientists, who brought with him his wife and three kids, was said to have commented, "Each one of my children was the result of the failure of a different form of birth control"... Now, if someone with a PhD can't figure out how to prevent pregnancy... what are the chances for an average schlump?

And there is still a societal prejudice in the more conservative public against birth control to begin with. Timely abortion should not be the first choice, but neither should it be ruled out.


His wife and three kid?

Sounds like someone with a PhD figured it out.  What are you talking about?

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Re: An alternative to abortion, I'm just curious how you conservatives would react
Reply #52 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 3:53pm
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Queshank wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 2:38pm:
I haven't moved them.  That would be you.

The only incident of a pregnancy where the woman did not act irresponsibly is rape. 


Nah ..

Still I wish I had your ability to speak reality into existence .. or at least thought that I could.
  

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Re: An alternative to abortion, I'm just curious how you conservatives would react
Reply #53 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 5:37pm
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Fiddler wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 3:53pm:
Nah ..

Still I wish I had your ability to speak reality into existence .. or at least thought that I could.


The point I'm illustrating here, is there is more than one idea of what "responsibility" entails.

I am what is considered pro "choice."  The standard definition, even if I get there by another road.  But I know a lot of people who think you made a choice long before you started on a road towards the abortion clinic.  They consider themselves pro women's choices too.  The choice whether or not to engage in the behavior we're all tiptoeing around about.

And that's a compelling argument.  Because a choice implies a considered decision assuming responsibilities of said decision.  And we can fix that point to before and after sexual intercourse without insisting the other person lives in another reality. 

The only delusional opinion is the one you guys are proposing, that suggests women don't have a choice about whether or not to engage in sexual intercourse.  But by talking about it (since you guys are bringing up the idea of women not really having a choice where sex is concerned) we are heading down the road that leads to acknowledging abortion as an issue that benefits men far more than it benefits women.

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Re: An alternative to abortion, I'm just curious how you conservatives would react
Reply #54 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 8:09pm
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Maestro wrote on Nov 5th, 2019 at 8:08pm:
If so, he doesn't appear to be the only one.

Actually Freon is correct. A live birth is not an abortion which has nothing to do with what Petep said
  

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This is why people need to turn against the gov in general.  Only going to get worse.
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Re: An alternative to abortion, I'm just curious how you conservatives would react
Reply #55 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 8:19pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 8:09pm:
Actually Freon is correct. A live birth is not an abortion which has nothing to do with what Petep said


Why are you talking about live births?

I was pointing out the FB seems conflicted about abortion based on his quotes, which did not deal with live birth.
  

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Re: An alternative to abortion, I'm just curious how you conservatives would react
Reply #56 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 9:00pm
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Queshank wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 2:41pm:
His wife and three kid?

Sounds like someone with a PhD figured it out.  What are you talking about?

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Sorry, I don't know how to explain things to a loser stoner.

  

 
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Re: An alternative to abortion, I'm just curious how you conservatives would react
Reply #57 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 9:53pm
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Freon_Bale wrote on Nov 5th, 2019 at 2:39pm:
Ok, so abortion, the KILLING OF THE BABY, as you put it




As we PUT it?????
  
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Re: An alternative to abortion, I'm just curious how you conservatives would react
Reply #58 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 9:55pm
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Maestro wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 8:19pm:
Why are you talking about live births?

I was pointing out the FB seems conflicted about abortion based on his quotes, which did not deal with live birth.

Oh, but it did
  

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Re: An alternative to abortion, I'm just curious how you conservatives would react
Reply #59 - Nov 7th, 2019 at 10:01pm
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patrick2 wrote on Nov 7th, 2019 at 9:53pm:


As we PUT it?????


Yeah, I don't consider abortion baby killing. Baby killing is when you kill babies. An embryo is not a baby. A fetus is not a baby for months.
  
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