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Right wing impeachment excuses - a list
Nov 8th, 2019 at 10:53am
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Let's review.  Right wing excuses..

- A formal vote was required to start the impeachment hearings
- Impeachment hearings weren't formalized from the beginning so now it's to late
- Depositions are in secret with no Republicans able to ask questions
- The proceedings should be in public
- The proceedings shouldn't be in public
- Whistleblower is a Dem operative
- Whistleblower is a spy and a leaker
- Whistleblower only gave second hand info and gossip
- Whistleblower lawyer wanted a coup in 2017
- Republicans tried to ask some questions but Dems shut them down
- Yovanovitch told a lie in her deposition so all the depositions are lies
- Sondland is a Dem operative (even though he gave one million dollars to the Trump campaign)
- Rep Schiff altered the Trump call transcript
- Rep Schiff altered the witness testimony transcripts
- Zelensky said he felt no pressure from Ukraine call
- Zelensky did not know aid was cut off at the time of the call
- Hunter Biden got paid $50,000 a month by Burisma
- Hunter Biden got paid $80,000 a month by Burisma
- Trump has the right to root out corruption anywhere before we give out our money
- Trump says call was "perfect"
- Trump denied due process
- No evidence of a quid pro quo
- There WAS a quid pro quo but NOT an illegal one
- Ukraine got the military aid so there's no problem
- Giuliani in Ukraine is perfectly fine.  President can send anyone he wants to Ukraine to help root out corruption
- Ukraine interfered with 2016 election, not Russia
- Trump Admin too Incompetent to Form a Quid Pro Quo
- Mulvaney, Sondland and Giuliani did it without permission
- Let's wait for the transcripts of witness testimony
- No need to read the transcripts of witness testimony because the entire thing is a sham
- READ the call transcript, Trump has done nothing.  Ignore the witness testimony
- It's a Soviet style inquisition
- Entire impeachment effort is unconstitutional
- It's inappropriate what Trump did but not impeachable
- It's a witch hunt

Did I miss any?

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Re: Right wing impeachment excuses - a list
Reply #1 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 11:02am
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-It won't pass in the Senate.
-The Senate will call the whistleblower to testify.
-The Senate will call Joe and Hunter Biden to testify.
  

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Reply #2 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 11:03am
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The D-Man wrote on Nov 8th, 2019 at 11:02am:
-It won't pass in the Senate.
-The Senate will call the whistleblower to testify.
-The Senate will call Joe and Hunter Biden to testify.


- Rudy Giuliani will be indicted
- Lev Parnas is now cooperating with the House impeachment inquiry

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Reply #3 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 11:10am
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SO we should ignore all of the inconsistencies that have hit the news wire and only rely on what you think is the truth.  Somehow that does not sit right with me.  There are some real issues here that your side wants to run from.  Go ahead and impeach him, it will not result in any conviction in the Senate based on the issues that have been made public.  I know what is going to happen when the Senate refuses to convict him but I highly doubt that the game is going to drag any of his supporters away from him and based on what the Senate finds may discredit Congresses impeachment proceedings.
  

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Reply #4 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 11:11am
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Seawolf wrote on Nov 8th, 2019 at 11:10am:
SO we should ignore all of the inconsistencies that have hit the news wire and only rely on what you think is the truth.  Somehow that does not sit right with me.  There are some real issues here that your side wants to run from.  Go ahead and impeach him, it will not result in any conviction in the Senate based on the issues that have been made public.  I know what is going to happen when the Senate refuses to convict him but I highly doubt that the game is going to drag any of his supporters away from him and based on what the Senate finds may discredit Congresses impeachment proceedings.


Well, OK.  They are going ahead and impeaching him.  Make you happy?

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Reply #5 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 11:14am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Nov 8th, 2019 at 11:11am:
Well, OK.  They are going ahead and impeaching him.  Make you happy?

Greg


I'm happy that Joe Biden is going to be called to testify. They should schedule the hearing the day before a debate.
  

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Reply #6 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 11:19am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Nov 8th, 2019 at 11:11am:
Well, OK.  They are going ahead and impeaching him.  Make you happy?

Greg


I could care less either way, you have some problems with people who have openly admitted to a coup within our government that you would want us to ignore. 
  

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Reply #7 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 12:12pm
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Seawolf wrote on Nov 8th, 2019 at 11:10am:
SO we should ignore all of the inconsistencies that have hit the news wire and only rely on what you think is the truth.  Somehow that does not sit right with me.  There are some real issues here that your side wants to run from.  Go ahead and impeach him, it will not result in any conviction in the Senate based on the issues that have been made public.  I know what is going to happen when the Senate refuses to convict him but I highly doubt that the game is going to drag any of his supporters away from him and based on what the Senate finds may discredit Congresses impeachment proceedings.


I'm not so sure.

Pelosi is an intelligent tactician that has survived and thrived in government, and she would not have conceded to allow this impeachment unless she felt that a victory was possible. I have a feeling that the bomb has not quite dropped yet. These are just the appetizers.

My bet is that she has info that is so damning, that if any Senator refuses to convict, they will be destroying their own career. You think she doesn't realize the complicit nature of the Senate majority in terms of Trump? If you really believe that, you are seriously underestimating your adversary.
  
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Reply #8 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 12:17pm
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Freon_Bale wrote on Nov 8th, 2019 at 12:12pm:
I'm not so sure.

Pelosi is an intelligent tactician that has survived and thrived in government, and she would not have conceded to allow this impeachment unless she felt that a victory was possible. I have a feeling that the bomb has not quite dropped yet. These are just the appetizers.

My bet is that she has info that is so damning, that if any Senator refuses to convict, they will be destroying their own career. You think she doesn't realize the complicit nature of the Senate majority in terms of Trump? If you really believe that, you are seriously underestimating your adversary.


McConnell has survived and thrived as well, and he says there will be no removal, so he must not think Pelosi has any such information.
  

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Reply #9 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 12:32pm
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The D-Man wrote on Nov 8th, 2019 at 11:02am:
-It won't pass in the Senate.
-The Senate will call the whistleblower to testify.
-The Senate will call Joe and Hunter Biden to testify.

AND possibly the crooked Adam shifty Schiff.
  

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