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Re: Majority of Trump-slaves say Trump better president than Lincoln
Reply #10 - Nov 30th, 2019 at 8:53pm
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Napoleon Bona parts 8 Thru 9 wrote on Nov 30th, 2019 at 8:02pm:
Great response. Corruption is an actual policy apparently. You are a treasure.


Corruption resulting from policy is of the most destructive kind.

Perhaps we could discuss which policies of Mr. Trump are resulting in corruption.


  

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Re: Majority of Trump-slaves say Trump better president than Lincoln
Reply #11 - Nov 30th, 2019 at 9:07pm
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Tiberius wrote on Nov 30th, 2019 at 8:50pm:
What then use should such libertarian-leaning Republicans have for Donald Trump, who in effect has suspended the writ of habeas corpus for many thousands of immigrants, without satisfying the constitutional requirement of invasion or rebellion first?

At least Lincoln could point to a clear case of rebellion when he complied with an act of Congress authorizing the suspension.

Not so with Trump. So why the studied silence from the libertarian-leaning American Right?



Libertarians have been pro-immigration for decades before the left woke up to the issue last year, or the year before.

The same is true of our support for gay rights and ending the war on drugs. We led the left by decades.

No one has been more pro-immigration than the libertarian party, and no one has a better position to criticize Trump on this issue. The left can't do it because they were silent when Obama was deporting record numbers, separating families, and setting up fraudulent universities to rip off and deport people on student visas.

If we are talking about studied silence, it is the left and right who have some explaining to do. The libertarians are busy leading the way.

  

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Re: Majority of Trump-slaves say Trump better president than Lincoln
Reply #12 - Nov 30th, 2019 at 9:12pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Nov 30th, 2019 at 9:07pm:
Libertarians have been pro-immigration for decades before the left woke up to the issue last year, or the year before.

The same is true of our support for gay rights and ending the war on drugs. We led the left by decades.

No one has been more pro-immigration than the libertarian party, and no one has a better position to criticize Trump on this issue. The left can't do it because they were silent when Obama was deporting record numbers, separating families, and setting up fraudulent universities to rip off and deport people on student visas.

If we are talking about studied silence, it is the left and right who have some explaining to do. The libertarians are busy leading the way.


Do you consider Rand Paul to be a Libertarian?

  

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Re: Majority of Trump-slaves say Trump better president than Lincoln
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Tiberius wrote on Nov 30th, 2019 at 9:12pm:
Do you consider Rand Paul to be a Libertarian?


No, I don't.
  

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Re: Majority of Trump-slaves say Trump better president than Lincoln
Reply #14 - Nov 30th, 2019 at 11:14pm
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I never thought about that. Learn before you decide.


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Reply #15 - Dec 1st, 2019 at 12:01am
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TowardLiberty wrote on Nov 30th, 2019 at 10:07pm:
No, I don't.


So has there ever been a Libertarian to hold an elected national federal office?
  
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Re: Majority of Trump-slaves say Trump better president than Lincoln
Reply #16 - Dec 1st, 2019 at 1:35am
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Little Lulu wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 12:01am:
So has there ever been a Libertarian to hold an elected national federal office?

I think Ron Paul was about as close as you get. Justin Amash is a runner up.

But even then we have to put an asterisk on the claim.
  

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Re: Majority of Trump-slaves say Trump better president than Lincoln
Reply #17 - Dec 1st, 2019 at 2:23am
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TowardLiberty wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 1:35am:
I think Ron Paul was about as close as you get. Justin Amash is a runner up.

But even then we have to put an asterisk on the claim.


So, how long has the Libertarian Party been in existence?


  
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Reply #18 - Dec 1st, 2019 at 3:52am
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Not a very convincing track record for a political party.

More like a cult.
  

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Re: Majority of Trump-slaves say Trump better president than Lincoln
Reply #19 - Dec 1st, 2019 at 3:55am
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Tiberius wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 3:52am:
Not a very convincing track record for a political party.

More like a cult.


Oh, I don't know about that. They just seem kind of unrealistic and impractical.
  
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