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Poll Question: If Trump had NOT been impeached, would they all be alive?
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Yes and yes, they'd all still be alive    
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No and no, events would still have occurred    
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Re: If Trump had NOT been impeached, would they all be alive today?
Reply #80 - Jan 14th, 2020 at 9:32am
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Seawolf wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 9:28am:
IT IS.  You know full well that the events were polar opposite and some were hoping for a similar outcome.


No.

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Reply #81 - Jan 14th, 2020 at 9:34am
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KSU_Aviator wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 9:15am:
That was withheld because they had been using their money to kill people. At the same time, they were trying to use that money to develop a nuclear weapon. But hey, let's give it back to them even though they've vowed to wipe Israel off the map. What could possibly go wrong? It's not like they'd develop a nuclear bomb and then launch it at Israel...right?

So no, they should not have been GIVEN that money.

No, because they were going to buy weapons from us.  We took the money and never gave them the weapons because of the hostage thing
  

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This is why people need to turn against the gov in general.  Only going to get worse.
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Re: If Trump had NOT been impeached, would they all be alive today?
Reply #82 - Jan 14th, 2020 at 9:35am
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Wadsworth wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 9:31am:
That was totally different. Like when trump killed that ISIS guy. Democrats stood behind him.  But you can’t go and kill a country’s general and not expect retaliation. 

No, not in my opinion is it different.  You can't have a nation that kills our soldiers, harrasses our fleet, shoots drones, kills Americans and then assaults our embassy.  The PRIMARY purpose of our federal government is to protect its citizens and our nation.  That is their primary mandate.
  

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Reply #83 - Jan 14th, 2020 at 9:37am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 9:32am:
No.

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Yes... as my son would say.  The history of using our military as nothing but fodder by your party is there in black and white.
  

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Reply #84 - Jan 14th, 2020 at 9:37am
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Seawolf wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 9:17am:
The difference is we had hours to get support to the Ambassador and our enemies and we did nothing.  Trump reacted in less time and managed to spare this and other embassies from attacks jeopardizing American lives.

There is no evidence that Soleimani was going to attack our embassies.  Just like there was no evidence that Saddam had WMDs.  But continue to follow along like blind sheep
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Re: If Trump had NOT been impeached, would they all be alive today?
Reply #85 - Jan 14th, 2020 at 9:38am
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Wadsworth wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 9:37am:
The is no evidence that Soleimani was going to attack our embassies.  Just like there was no evidence that Saddam had WMDs.  But continue to follow along like blind sheep

Your opinion minus Intel.  I will always default to those who make these decisions.  You are void of any ability to determine the facts when you have no Intel.
  

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Reply #86 - Jan 14th, 2020 at 9:41am
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Seawolf wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 9:19am:
In fact, many here was rooting for this to be Trump's Bengahzi at the very expense of American lives.

That is BS.  No one wants to think that but you dumbass far right wingnuts.  Democrats are concerned about escalation and war.  If Benghazi was the worst thing that ever happened in the Obama administration, then I’m OK with that
  

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Reply #87 - Jan 14th, 2020 at 9:42am
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Seawolf wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 9:17am:
The difference is we had hours to get support to the Ambassador and our enemies and we did nothing. 


You're still lying about this even though I've corrected you before..

The attack that killed Stevens was over in an hour.  Security forces responded within ~30 minutes.

About 4:15 p.m.: “The attackers gained access to the compound and began firing into the main building, setting it on fire. The Libyan guard force and our mission security personnel responded. At that time, there were three people inside the building: Ambassador Stevens, one of our regional security officers, and Information Management Officer Sean Smith.”

Between 4:15 p.m.-4:45 p.m.: Sean Smith is found dead.

About 4:45 p.m.: “U.S. security personnel assigned to the mission annex tried to regain the main building, but that group also took heavy fire and had to return to the mission annex.”

About 5:20 p.m.: “U.S. and Libyan security personnel … regain the main building and they were able to secure it.”


  

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Re: If Trump had NOT been impeached, would they all be alive today?
Reply #88 - Jan 14th, 2020 at 9:42am
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Wadsworth wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 9:37am:
The is no evidence that Soleimani was going to attack our embassies.  Just like there was no evidence that Saddam had WMDs.  But continue to follow along like blind sheep


our embassy in iraq was attacked days earlier...are you kidding me???

saddam had no WMD's??? really??? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_chemical_weapons_program

you should tell that to those he killed with them...
  
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Re: If Trump had NOT been impeached, would they all be alive today?
Reply #89 - Jan 14th, 2020 at 9:44am
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Seawolf wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 9:19am:
In fact, many here was rooting for this to be Trump's Bengahzi at the very expense of American lives.


Seriously.. How does it benefit you to believe that lie? ..  Who is programming you to believe this shit?

  

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