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Re: FBI Admits Illegal Wiretapping Of President Trump, Issues Apology
Reply #20 - Jan 14th, 2020 at 8:08am
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petep wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 8:04am:
greg you were obviously asleep for the past year +...the apology was that while page was the target, they also got others on tape who he interacted with...including trump...see the problem here....


Page was never charged with any crimes.  In the meantime, Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Michael Cohen, George Popadopolous, Michael Flynn and Rick Gates were charged, convicted or plead guilty to crimes.  See the problem here?

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Re: FBI Admits Illegal Wiretapping Of President Trump, Issues Apology
Reply #21 - Jan 14th, 2020 at 8:08am
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Fiddler wrote on Jan 13th, 2020 at 11:43pm:
Rep. Adam Schiff asked, “Your investigation is not a witch hunt, is it?”

“It is not a witch hunt,”
Mueller flatly replied.


“And what about total exoneration? Did you actually totally exonerate the president?” Chairman Jerrold Nadler asked.

“No,” Mueller replied.


Investigators do not exonerate. But, Mueller found no evidence of collusion or obstruction of a crime that wasn't committed.
  



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Re: FBI Admits Illegal Wiretapping Of President Trump, Issues Apology
Reply #22 - Jan 14th, 2020 at 8:29am
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KSU_Aviator wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 8:07am:
Wiretaps have a +1 to them. Once they had a warrant to monitor Carter, they could then monitor anyone Carter came in contact with...i.e. the entire Trump campaign.



Oh?  Did they?

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Reply #23 - Jan 14th, 2020 at 8:48am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 8:29am:
Oh?  Did they?

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I know greg, fids, wads like to operate on what they "believe" -

lets stick with facts and data, and court rulings, to understand why the FBI had to issue an apology for gross overreach and violating the 4th amendment...pay attention to the summary at the end in bold...this is what the FBI did not do, and why they had to issue an apology.....

http://www.patc.com/weeklyarticles/2016_us_v_carey_chapman.shtml

  
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petep wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 8:48am:
I know greg, fids, wads like to operate on what they "believe" -

lets stick with facts and data, and court rulings, to understand why the FBI had to issue an apology for gross overreach and violating the 4th amendment...pay attention to the summary at the end in bold...this is what the FBI did not do, and why they had to issue an apology.....

http://www.patc.com/weeklyarticles/2016_us_v_carey_chapman.shtml



Yeah, let's stick with the FACTS.  At the very end:

Page was never charged with a crime.

https://www.npr.org/2020/01/11/795566486/fbi-apologizes-to-court-for-mishandling...

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Reply #25 - Jan 14th, 2020 at 10:00am
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 8:52am:
Yeah, let's stick with the FACTS.  At the very end:

Page was never charged with a crime.

https://www.npr.org/2020/01/11/795566486/fbi-apologizes-to-court-for-mishandling...

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nitwit thats the point...they got a wiretap to spy on a guy who was never charged with a crime...and in the meantime they were spying and keeping recordings on others not part of any investigation...

that is why they had to issue an apology...

now I understand in left wing meccas like the ussr, cuba, n korea, china this is an acceptable practice...but its not here...
  
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petep wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 10:00am:
nitwit thats the point...they got a wiretap to spy on a guy who was never charged with a crime...and in the meantime they were spying and keeping recordings on others not part of any investigation...

that is why they had to issue an apology...

now I understand in left wing meccas like the ussr, cuba, n korea, china this is an acceptable practice...but its not here...


You mean Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Michael Cohen, George Popadopolous, Michael Flynn and Rick Gates?

Should THEY get an apology?

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Greg55_99 wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 10:04am:
You mean Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Michael Cohen, George Popadopolous, Michael Flynn and Rick Gates?

Should THEY get an apology?

Greg

All are not equal.  Because these individuals were associated with Donald Trump, they all came under scrutiny.  None of them were prosecuted for any crimes dealing with Russian collusion.  However, Manafort, Gates and Cohen were prosecuted for financial crimes they committed that happened prior to the campaign and had nothing to do with Donald Trump.  The others were process crimes, but then again..you already know this.

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Wally Wants A Wall wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 10:59am:
All are not equal.  Because these individuals were associated with Donald Trump, they all came under scrutiny.  None of them were prosecuted for any crimes dealing with Russian collusion.  However, Manafort, Gates and Cohen were prosecuted for financial crimes they committed that happened prior to the campaign and had nothing to do with Donald Trump.  The others were process crimes, but then again..you already know this.

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Oh...  Well...  Sad about being convicted over a "process crime".  Well...  They just made a boo boo....

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Re: FBI Admits Illegal Wiretapping Of President Trump, Issues Apology
Reply #29 - Jan 14th, 2020 at 11:05am
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petep wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 8:48am:
I know greg, fids, wads like to operate on what they "believe" -

lets stick with facts and data, and court rulings, to understand why the FBI had to issue an apology for gross overreach and violating the 4th amendment...pay attention to the summary at the end in bold...this is what the FBI did not do, and why they had to issue an apology.....



I'm beginning to understand that you don't even realize how much of a rank hypocrite you are ..


petep wrote on Jan 14th, 2020 at 9:56am:
I believe what the 9/11 commission report stated...he still had a large cache or WMD's, that were yet to be destroyed when he ousted the UN group responsible for cataloging and destroying them...when the un was allowed back in, he stated they were gone...no records were provided, no explanation...just they were gone...the UN believed he still had them, and his top leaders believed he still had them...it was a game of cat and mouse...the conclusion was we may never know what happened to all of the WMD's he had when the inspectors were last there


the epilogue is the trucks were all seen heading for syria...

and lo behold syria used chem weapons years later....


  

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